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What economists have gotten wrong for decades
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Snit
2019-08-12 08:17:45 UTC
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Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there is
not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to be more
knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and the
like.
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
But you offer no support. Do you also submit that if everyone in a game of
musical chairs was skilled that nobody would be left without a seat?
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Snit
2019-08-12 08:17:45 UTC
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I'm Native American and I can assure you Blacks and
Hispanics can be every bit as racist as any white person. In fact
Blacks can be worse.
Doesn't matter. The *structural* oppression victimizes black people,
Hispanic people, and native people while it benefits white people.
The question of who is racist was completely irrelevant.
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chrisv
2019-08-12 12:20:11 UTC
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Face it
My.... Wasn't that productive, arguing with that snit?
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
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Snit
2019-08-12 13:47:53 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:23:57 UTC
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Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from Wikipedia:

"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
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2019-08-12 15:49:25 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
Snit
2019-08-12 16:16:14 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
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2019-08-12 16:48:16 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
Snit
2019-08-12 17:08:00 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-12 17:11:56 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Snit
2019-08-12 17:28:07 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-12 17:59:11 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Snit
2019-08-12 19:42:55 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-12 20:02:54 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Snit
2019-08-12 20:04:00 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Are you portly?
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-12 20:14:49 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching
operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Are you portly?
not anymore i lost 70 odd pounds
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2019-08-12 23:27:11 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
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2019-08-12 23:33:01 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching
operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching
operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next
new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
Snit
2019-08-13 00:07:35 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what
Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next
new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-13 00:17:40 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware
that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next
new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft
Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
Snit
2019-08-13 00:43:08 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware
that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher
rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft
Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-13 00:44:48 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft
Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
Snit
2019-08-13 00:45:22 UTC
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft
Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
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somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
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"This is yet another example where when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that was funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not
earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in
North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name , that
was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not
earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on
their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in
North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name ,
that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not
earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on
their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in
North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name ,
that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not
earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on
their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3%
(in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name ,
that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has
not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a
MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it
on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3%
(in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name ,
that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
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Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has
not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a
MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it
on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers from
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3%
(in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name ,
that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has
not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at
a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it
on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3%
(in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name
, that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
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"This is yet another example where when a
product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has
not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at
a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get
it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about
3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your name
, that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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"This is yet another example where when
a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user
base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it
has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS
at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get
it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at
78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about
3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your
name , that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
maybe yours is
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"This is yet another example where when
a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user
base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it
has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS
at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get
it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers
"In the area of desktop and laptop
computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and
at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about
3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your
name , that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
maybe yours is
Of course. And that is the one that counts.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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On 2019-08-12, Snit
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where
when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user
base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it
has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS
at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or
get it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged) numbers
"In the area of desktop and laptop
computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and
at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at
about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your
name , that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
maybe yours is
Of course. And that is the one that counts.
that's where you go wrong and in doing so it makes your posts that you
think are harmless not so harmless
Snit
2019-08-13 18:57:39 UTC
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On 2019-08-12 8:23 a.m., Steve Carroll
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On 2019-08-12, Snit
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where
when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent
user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it
has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to
ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or
get it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged)
"In the area of desktop and laptop
computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and
at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at
about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your
name , that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
maybe yours is
Of course. And that is the one that counts.
that's where you go wrong and in doing so it makes your posts that you
think are harmless not so harmless
That is your reality, not mine.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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On 2019-08-12, Snit
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where
when a product is
free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent
user base.
Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because
it has not earned
what Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing,
apparently
unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free,
compared to
switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to
ChromeOS at a MUCH
higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or
get it on their
next new desktop
computer? Here are the (alleged)
"In the area of desktop and laptop
computers,
Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets
and at 78%
globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at
about 3% (in North
America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
As have I.
of course you have
At the same time?
remember when i called you a snit and you changed your
name , that was
funny
I used to be Tins. Then I got all backwards.
i remember all the who you were
I was never in The Who.
no one said you were
I was not all of the members of The Who.
no one said you were
No one said anyone said I was.
you did when you said you weren't
Insinuation is not saying.
don't tell me what things are ,
insinuating is whatever i think it is to me
You insinuate your view is reality even if not shown to be.
oh well then please enlighten me on what reality is
It is what I say it is, of course.
maybe yours is
Of course. And that is the one that counts.
that's where you go wrong and in doing so it makes your posts that you
think are harmless not so harmless
That is your reality, not mine.
it has nothing to do with me it's what happens
Stephen
2019-08-13 00:23:38 UTC
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Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where when a product is free and
good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base.  Desktop
Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what
Firefox
has."  -  some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that
switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching
operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next
new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally,
Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
look at all the %'s
You are a dime a dozen.
what % age is that
You are 100% of your age.
now i'm more
Well now you are.
i've advanced
Are you older or younger than others?
right
Most people are older or younger than others.
I wasn't always.
i've been older
Another boring, snarky comment from pee scent.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
chrisv
2019-08-12 17:18:55 UTC
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Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
Compared to desktop Linux, ChromeOS also has a deep-pocketed,
well-known corporate sponsor, who figured-out a business plan that
works well, in some markets. That business plan is not suitable for
"desktop Linux".
--
"No one is afraid of Chrome Books. They are a qualified disaster. No
one give or take, wants one. They are too limited. They provide NO
beneft over a reasonable netbook/laptop other than maybe saving a few
quid." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quack
Snit
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Post by chrisv
"This is yet another example where when a product is free and good it
gets noticed... it gains a decent user base. Desktop Linux, of
course, stays at around 1% because it has not earned what Firefox
has." - some stupid fscking thing, apparently unaware that switching
browsers is very easy and risk-free, compared to switching operating
systems
And yet didn't people moved to ChromeOS at a MUCH higher rate.
How did they move, did they switch or get it on their next new desktop
"In the area of desktop and laptop computers, Microsoft Windows is
generally above 70% in most markets and at 78% globally, Apple's macOS
at around 14%, Google's ChromeOS at about 3% (in North America) and
Linux at around 2%."
Compared to desktop Linux, ChromeOS also has a deep-pocketed,
well-known corporate sponsor, who figured-out a business plan that
works well, in some markets. That business plan is not suitable for
"desktop Linux".
Much of the plan: make it work and make it be usable to the general user.

It is a good plan.
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
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Face it
My.... Wasn't that productive, arguing with that snit?
He freaked out and resorted to baseless name calling.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
chrisv
2019-08-12 12:55:41 UTC
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What is the current count? 19 dead? This is not a game. This is people
dying... and it is more often than not right wing extremists who are
killing people.
Population control.
I'll just let this sit here and get archived in case you later try to
delete the original.
You horrible piece of shit.
And proud of it, he is.
Suck a dick Paul.
You right-wingers are such "class acts".
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Free system?" - some thing, attacking the GPL and its supporters
Snit
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"If Freedom is so important to people in COLA, why not move to a more
Free system?" - some thing, attacking the GPL and its supporters
You never did answer this question... nor do you show the context.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
chrisv
2019-08-12 13:41:18 UTC
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You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages) will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).

Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".

I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.

The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Snit
2019-08-12 13:49:31 UTC
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You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages) will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:34:18 UTC
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Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages) will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
Because, at some point (gotta happen eventually) people are gonna start
thinking: 'Gee, maybe I should start to pay down this soul crushing debt
I'll probably never be rid of'. Or the Social Ponzi scheme will do what
we all know it's going to do. Or the next downturn will be much bigger
than anticipated (which isn't as big a problem if you have manageable
debt). Or the bottom will drop out of the dollar. Any number of issues
stand in the way of what appears to be 'logical'.
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Snit
2019-08-12 15:57:32 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages) will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
Because, at some point (gotta happen eventually) people are gonna start
thinking: 'Gee, maybe I should start to pay down this soul crushing debt
I'll probably never be rid of'.
Sure. The unfunded tax cut was idiotic. We should instead invest in the
future and help those truly in need. That helps the economy instead of
hurting it.
Post by Steve Carroll
Or the Social Ponzi scheme will do what
we all know it's going to do. Or the next downturn will be much bigger
than anticipated (which isn't as big a problem if you have manageable
debt). Or the bottom will drop out of the dollar. Any number of issues
stand in the way of what appears to be 'logical'.
What about your view do you see as not logical?

Mine is logical, which is why I back it.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
The market is too “smart” for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
chrisv
2019-08-13 12:36:10 UTC
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all? Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?

Idiot.

Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour. Think of the
demand! Think of the jobs created!

It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity. Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
--
"You call Snit a liar for making a claim nearly identical to your own
claim." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
Snit
2019-08-13 15:44:43 UTC
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Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would accept
some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to continue to
have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
Lots of sources for it, but here is one:

https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
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• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants
and retail.

• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.

• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.

• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
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Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour. Think of the
demand! Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity. Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-13 15:51:10 UTC
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Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would accept
some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to continue to
have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants
and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
Snit
2019-08-13 16:00:47 UTC
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Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like
restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in
the leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back
into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for
goods and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-13 16:35:24 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists
have found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible
effect on employment, including employment in high-impact sectors
like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in
the leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP
and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily rerun
it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Snit
2019-08-13 18:06:31 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists
have found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible
effect on employment, including employment in high-impact sectors
like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in
the leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts
the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a
$2.55 increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of
low-wage workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase
in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily rerun
it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-13 18:24:56 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists
have found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible
effect on employment, including employment in high-impact sectors
like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped
minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts
the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a
$2.55 increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of
low-wage workers by $40 billion and result in a significant
increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Snit
2019-08-13 18:40:26 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists
have found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible
effect on employment, including employment in high-impact sectors
like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped
minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts
the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that
a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings
of low-wage workers by $40 billion and result in a significant
increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-13 18:44:30 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real
job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists
have found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible
effect on employment, including employment in high-impact sectors
like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts
the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that
a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings
of low-wage workers by $40 billion and result in a significant
increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense. Of
course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
Snit
2019-08-13 18:57:08 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real
job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage have no
discernible effect on employment, including employment in
high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle
of greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and
increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense.
Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-13 18:59:18 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people
can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in
people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the
real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is
pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage have
no discernible effect on employment, including employment in
high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle
of greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and
increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.  Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense.
Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Snit
2019-08-13 19:00:18 UTC
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Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people
can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money
in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the
real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is
pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage have
no discernible effect on employment, including employment in
high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry
the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle
of greater demand for goods and services, job growth, and
increased productivity.
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make sense.
Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It is
interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your daily
rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people
can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money
in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the
real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is
pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage have
no discernible effect on employment, including employment in
high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry
the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage
workers, precisely those most likely to put additional income
directly back into the economy, kick starting a virtuous
cycle of greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It
is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and
nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts
your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money
in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the
real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is
pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage
have no discernible effect on employment, including
employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum
wages provides further support. San Francisco increased its
tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced
positive job growth in the leisure and hospitality industry
the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods and
services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It
is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and
nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts
your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the
real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is
pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage
have no discernible effect on employment, including
employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips,
and experienced positive job growth in the leisure and
hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion
and result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods and
services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased
economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger. It
is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you (and
nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts
your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and one
error on you
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is
the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I
would accept some level of the right wing socialism that
is pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage
have no discernible effect on employment, including
employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips,
and experienced positive job growth in the leisure and
hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and
boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper
estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum wage would
increase the earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion
and result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods and
services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to increased
economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger.
It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you
(and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and predicts
your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and one
error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is
the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying
I would accept some level of the right wing socialism
that is pushed to continue to have government support for
wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage
have no discernible effect on employment, including
employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before tips,
and experienced positive job growth in the leisure and
hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending
and boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David
Cooper estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum
wage would increase the earnings of low-wage workers by
$40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP
and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods and
services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger.
It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you
(and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and
predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and one
error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is
the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying
I would accept some level of the right wing socialism
that is pushed to continue to have government support
for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the
downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum wage
have no discernible effect on employment, including
employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants and
retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before
tips, and experienced positive job growth in the leisure
and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending
and boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David
Cooper estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum
wage would increase the earnings of low-wage workers by
$40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP
and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an hour.
Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and anger.
It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT about you
(and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and your
daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and
predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and one
error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is
the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have government
support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the
downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum
wage have no discernible effect on employment,
including employment in high-impact sectors like
restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before
tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending
and boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David
Cooper estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum
wage would increase the earnings of low-wage workers by
$40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP
and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would make
sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said
anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and
predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and
one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so that
people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased
money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which
is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the
downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading
economists have found that increases in the minimum
wage have no discernible effect on employment,
including employment in high-impact sectors like
restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before
tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending
and boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall and David
Cooper estimated that a $2.55 increase in the minimum
wage would increase the earnings of low-wage workers
by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in
GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy, kick
starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It simply
cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said
anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless and
predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and
one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which
is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at
all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the
downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San Francisco
increased its tipped minimum wage to $12.25, before
tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug Hall
and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55 increase in
the minimum wage would increase the earnings of
low-wage workers by $40 billion and result in a
significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy,
kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for
goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he said
anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and
one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of good
material
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which
is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at
all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the
downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their
minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits
low-wage workers, precisely those most likely to put
additional income directly back into the economy,
kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for
goods and services, job growth, and increased
productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim that
cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission and
one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of good
material
I never said you do not waste.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
yes you did at least in my world you did so , you did
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
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Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
yes you did at least in my world you did so , you did
Worlds collide.
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say, $40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
yes you did at least in my world you did so , you did
Worlds collide.
i'm right
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2019-08-13 23:02:32 UTC
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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I think minimum wages should be increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur
more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right
wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases
in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support. San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job
growth in the leisure and hospitality industry
the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back
into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job
growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your insecurities.
Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say,
$40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate
would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no
support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear, and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says
a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each
other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and
harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
yes you did at least in my world you did so , you did
Worlds collide.
i'm right
And wrong.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Your fear of me is amusing.
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be
increased, so
that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the
increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will
spur more
business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand,
which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no
downside
at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been
clear in
saying I would accept some level of the right
wing
socialism that is pushed to continue to have
government support for wages.
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than
the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
Leading economists have found that increases
in the
minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact
sectors like restaurants and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised
their minimum wages provides further support.
San
Francisco increased its tipped minimum wage to
$12.25, before tips, and experienced positive
job
growth in the leisure and hospitality
industry the
following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer
spending and boosts the economy. A study by Doug
Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the
earnings of low-wage workers by $40 billion and
result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly
benefits low-wage workers, precisely those most
likely to put additional income directly back
into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of
greater demand for goods and services, job
growth,
and increased productivity.
-----
Post by chrisv
Idiot.
Ah, name calling to express your
insecurities. Fair
enough.
Post by chrisv
Let's just mandate a minimum wage of, say,
$40 an
hour. Think of the
demand!  Think of the jobs created!
I am open to your support that your set rate
would
make sense. Of course, I bet you have no
support at
all. None.
Post by chrisv
It's about as dumb as when right-wingers claim
that cutting taxes
magically increases government revenues, due to
increased economic
activity.  Outside of pathologic scenarios, It
simply cannot work,
that way.
See: you just lash out with insecurity, fear,
and
anger. It is interesting to watch... and says
a LOT
about you (and nothing about me).
no one i know would take the time to read what he
said anyway,
most of the people here ignore your bickers
that's
why ,
you're always bickering with the same guys
I enjoy it. Seems they do, too.
i know that , you'd all be lost without each
other and
your daily rerun it's safe , predictable and
harmless
and predicts your day
Harmless as long as it stays here.
i suppose
Updated entry: Mostly Harmless.
then ignore where i said not so harmless
I ignore most of what you say.
people tend to do that to the truth
Yes, but not me.
you just admitted you did
Maybe if your reality, but not mine.
i wasn't in my reality when i said it so that's one admission
and one error on you
Maybe I said maybe.
it doesn't matter because it wasn't in your reality
But everything is.
not even you are
Both are true.
what gain would i have to lie , lying with out profit is a waste of
good material
I never said you do not waste.
i never said you said anything
I never said you said I said anything.
yes you did at least in my world you did so , you did
Worlds collide.
i'm right
And wrong.
only incorrectly informed so it's not my wrong it's a wrong i was told
Steve Carroll
2019-08-13 17:43:29 UTC
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2019-08-13 18:05:45 UTC
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Your fear of me is amusing.
Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would accept
some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to continue to
have government support for wages.
LOL! Psyche degree fail!
Your jealousy of my education is YOUR issue.

And below you insist in speaking for me... or in confusing the voice in
your head you have named after me for the ACTUAL me.

And then you mock the idea of corporations being responsible for what
they want to buy. You can deny it all you want, and yes, I have said
there may be SOME place for socializing their costs of labor, but
overall let them pay their own way.

You then claim they do cover their own costs but offer, of course, no
support. But if they do that is great. Then the reduction in socializing
the costs of corporations will have less impact on them. I am fine with
that.

Then you snipped and ran from this:


https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants
and retail.

• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.

• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.

• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----

Of course you did -- it does not fit your extreme right wing agenda.
The idea that corporate welfare is strictly a
right wing deal is absurd. Even Obama grew up and realized that a thing
like the import export bank is necessary, a bank he once claimed was
little more than a fund for it. Your earlier statement, that employers
should be held responsible... blah, blah... is a fail, too. The vast
majority of them already do cover their costs, your beef is corporate
employers who get 'incentives' to help do it. In regards to that, your
other fail...
"You hire someone for a job, YOU pay them and do not demand that the cost be socialized."
.... is evidenced by the fact that a business should be allowed to cover
their costs any legal way they can. The reason we elect politicians is
to do what you're trying to foist onto businesses... and you do that as
you call it 'right wing' socialism. IOW, you've conflated too many of
your parroted points and came up with your usual confusion ;)
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Where's the
math that shows that the upside is greater than the downside?
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs.
The issue isn't just raising it, it's doing it too much, too quickly.
Bonus question: Why do you suppose so many of these 'studies' use the
restaurant industry?
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-13 18:21:23 UTC
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-13 18:33:20 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
Hunh... I don't believe I've ever seen a post by you in direct response
to 'The Thing!'. I'd have to check with the expert (DFS) on this but I
know there can't be many.
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2019-08-13 18:39:22 UTC
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
Hunh... I don't believe I've ever seen a post by you in direct response
to 'The Thing!'. I'd have to check with the expert (DFS) on this but I
know there can't be many.
His fear of me (or really my ideas) manifests differently than does yours.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in
people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
Hunh... I don't believe I've ever seen a post by you in direct response
to 'The Thing!'. I'd have to check with the expert (DFS) on this but I
know there can't be many.
His fear of me (or really my ideas) manifests differently than does yours.
In response Carroll freaked out in obvious fear. Wow. I did not mean to
set him off so badly!
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
chrisv
2019-08-13 18:51:07 UTC
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I don't believe I've ever seen a post by you in direct response
to 'The Thing!'. I'd have to check with the expert (DFS) on this but I
know there can't be many.
It's a serious topic, and not the usual snittish garbage.
--
"The herd wants honesty to leave COLA. They fear it." - some thing,
lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
Snit
2019-08-13 18:56:42 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
I don't believe I've ever seen a post by you in direct response
to 'The Thing!'. I'd have to check with the expert (DFS) on this but I
know there can't be many.
It's a serious topic, and not the usual snittish garbage.
In other words I did more than just respond to Carroll's lies. Fair enough.

I do note you again showed how your real issue is with your herd, NOT
with me:
-----
"The herd wants honesty to leave COLA. They fear it." - some thing,
lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
-----

This is very much true... look at how they attack honesty.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Snit
2019-08-13 18:54:52 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
Notice how you moved goal posts:

FROM: "has no downside at all"
TO: "the downsides (e.g. inflation) could not possibly
outweigh the upsides."

This shows where you found your error. Good. Glad I could help you. Now
keep in mind I also showed you other evidence (which you snipped):

https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants
and retail.

• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.

• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.

• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----

But now you ask about inflation, not directly covered by my content.
Fair enough... happy to help you more:

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/11503/labour-markets/effect-of-minimum-wage-on-adas/
-----
In theory, a higher minimum wage could cause inflation for two reasons:

1. Higher spending by workers (demand pull inflation)

2. Higher costs for firms, leading to wage-push inflation.

However, in reality, the inflationary impact of a rise in a minimum wage
is likely to be muted.

• As a percentage of a firm’s overall costs, the minimum wage bill is
only a small component.

• Also, given the low inflationary pressures, there is also a pressure
for firms to absorb the wage increases without increasing prices (reduce
profit margins).

• Also, in theory, firms could respond to higher minimum wages by
investing in capital to raise labour productivity and so will be able to
afford the higher wages – without increasing prices.
-----

Now you can find others who disagree with this, but the general
consensus is that the impact on inflation would be small (or short
term). And given how large corporations pay so much for their higher
wage employees they can easily balance things better and reduce the
difference in pay there.

Happy to be able to help you understand this. If you have other
questions toss'm at me. I am no expert but happy to share with you what
I can and point you to resources where you can help yourself better.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-13 19:11:50 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to continue to have government support for wages.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
FROM: "has no downside at all"
TO: "the downsides (e.g. inflation) could not possibly
outweigh the upsides."
LOL! Uh, airhead? What do you think he meant by: "a glorious positive feedback loop"?
Post by Snit
This shows where you found your error. i
Actually, that showed merely one of the downsides, you know, that wouldn't
exist in "a glorious positive feedback loop". Poor Snit ;)
Snit
2019-08-13 19:15:42 UTC
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Post by chrisv
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Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in
people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
How can it not? It increases market demand, which is the real job creator.
So increasing labor costs, here, has no downside at all?
Not a claim I made. In fact, I have been clear in saying I would
accept some level of the right wing socialism that is pushed to
continue to have government support for wages.
You asked the stupid question "How can it not", as if the downsides
(e.g. inflation) could not possibly outweigh the upsides.
FROM: "has no downside at all"
TO:   "the downsides (e.g. inflation) could not possibly
      outweigh the upsides."
This shows where you found your error. Good.
Carroll jumped in the middle of this to cry. Whatever. He is never going
to be honest.
Post by Snit
Glad I could help you. Now
https://edlabor.house.gov/imo/media/doc/FactSheet-RaisingTheMinimumWageIsGoodForWorkers,Businesses,andTheEconomy-FINAL.pdf
-----
• Raising the minimum wage does not kill jobs. Leading economists have
found that increases in the minimum wage have no discernible effect on
employment, including employment in high-impact sectors like restaurants
and retail.
• Recent experience in cities that have raised their minimum wages
provides further support. San Francisco increased its tipped minimum
wage to $12.25, before tips, and experienced positive job growth in the
leisure and hospitality industry the following year.
• Raising the minimum wage increases consumer spending and boosts the
economy. A study by Doug Hall and David Cooper estimated that a $2.55
increase in the minimum wage would increase the earnings of low-wage
workers by $40 billion and result in a significant increase in GDP and
employment.
• A raise in the minimum wage predominantly benefits low-wage workers,
precisely those most likely to put additional income directly back into
the economy, kick starting a virtuous cycle of greater demand for goods
and services, job growth, and increased productivity.
-----
But now you ask about inflation, not directly covered by my content.
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/11503/labour-markets/effect-of-minimum-wage-on-adas/
-----
1. Higher spending by workers (demand pull inflation)
2. Higher costs for firms, leading to wage-push inflation.
However, in reality, the inflationary impact of a rise in a minimum wage
is likely to be muted.
• As a percentage of a firm’s overall costs, the minimum wage bill is
only a small component.
• Also, given the low inflationary pressures, there is also a pressure
for firms to absorb the wage increases without increasing prices (reduce
profit margins).
• Also, in theory, firms could respond to higher minimum wages by
investing in capital to raise labour productivity and so will be able to
afford the higher wages – without increasing prices.
-----
Now you can find others who disagree with this, but the general
consensus is that the impact on inflation would be small (or short
term). And given how large corporations pay so much for their higher
wage employees they can easily balance things better and reduce the
difference in pay there.
Happy to be able to help you understand this. If you have other
questions toss'm at me. I am no expert but happy to share with you what
I can and point you to resources where you can help yourself better.
Carroll had no comment on this. Of course he will not give me credit for
teaching chrisv about the basics of economics.
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:28:41 UTC
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Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Snit
2019-08-12 15:47:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Part of the reason you obsess over my education and show so much jealousy.

But you can think highly of yourself with an education. Your bigger issues
likely tie to the estrangement with your kids and your multiple wives
leaving you. You complain about those a lot.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
What ones would you remove that would not have negative impacts to human
rights or the environment?

...
--
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
Nadegda
2019-08-13 21:20:24 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
--
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you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
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Snit
2019-08-13 21:57:37 UTC
Permalink
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
I do not get the right wing worship of the rich. Nor their demonizing of
the poor.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-13 22:52:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
I do not get the right wing worship of the rich. Nor their demonizing of
the poor.
being rich is fun being poor isn't
Snit
2019-08-13 23:01:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by Snit
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that?  Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents.  Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous.  "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Post by Steve Carroll
The market is too "smart" for that.  It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
I do not get the right wing worship of the rich. Nor their demonizing of
the poor.
being rich is fun being poor isn't
Makes cents.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-13 23:06:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that?  Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents.  Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous.  "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it.  But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Post by Steve Carroll
The market is too "smart" for that.  It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
I do not get the right wing worship of the rich. Nor their demonizing of
the poor.
being rich is fun being poor isn't
Makes cents.
it bucks me off
Steve Carroll
2019-08-13 22:27:02 UTC
Permalink
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Why would I do that unless I was benefiting myself (and was "rich")?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
Right... no gov't interference there <eyeroll>. It's bizarre to watch
you complain about the gov't to the extent you do and then watch you
make goofy statements like that, where you complain about 'business'.
You just like to complain, period.
Snit
2019-08-13 22:36:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Carroll
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Why would I do that unless I was benefiting myself (and was "rich")?
That is something you should ask a trained therapist about.... not a
question you should be asking others to help you with online.
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
The market is too "smart" for that. It knows better than any
"committee".
Exactly.
Idiots like you said the same things in 2007, right before the market
showed them *exactly* how smart it ... isn't.
Right... no gov't interference there <eyeroll>. It's bizarre to watch
you complain about the gov't to the extent you do and then watch you
make goofy statements like that, where you complain about 'business'.
You just like to complain, period.
What are you even pushing for... the government to not do anything to
reduce harm or deal with wrong doing? Be specific. Maybe you are still
pissed the "government" talked to you about your harassment of others.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-13 22:52:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Why would I do that unless I was benefiting myself (and was "rich")?
That is something you should ask a trained therapist about.... not a
question you should be asking others to help you with online.
LOL! I'll take the system we have, with all its warts, over what you and
Castro's daughter are pushing ;)
Snit
2019-08-13 23:02:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the working class and
unemployed.
You know what does that? Personal responsibility. Improving
your talents. Making yourself more valuable to employers.
Classic conservative claptrap, and easily proved wrong.
Don't be ridiculous. "Improving yourself" may not guarantee an
individual's success, but it most certainly improves their odds.
It also improves one's outlook, a thing that shouldn't be
underestimated.
Post by chrisv
What will increase that demand? Putting more money in the pockets
of their customers, that's what, so kensi is right. As usual.
The problem is, business costs (from government intervention
increasing wages)
... and regulations in many cases.
Post by chrisv
will go up more than what they can recover from the
"increased demand" (assuming there is any - layoffs might offset the
increased wages).
Sorry, but there is no silver bullet that the government can fire,
that is a "win win".
True, dat.
Post by chrisv
I think minimum wages should be increased, so that people can survive
on it. But it's naive to think that the increased money in people's
pockets (via government mandate) will spur more business, in a
glorious positive feedback loop.
Pie in the sky talk, the reason Yang is fun to watch pitch it but is
going nowhere.
All just making excuses for maintaining the (unsatisfactory) status quo,
on behalf of those who do enjoy the status quo (the rich).
Why would I do that unless I was benefiting myself (and was "rich")?
That is something you should ask a trained therapist about.... not a
question you should be asking others to help you with online.
LOL! I'll take the system we have, with all its warts, over what you and
Castro's daughter are pushing ;)
See how you lash out... you know you cannot refute what is being said
nor back your views. You know your views are indefensible. Fair enough.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 14:25:05 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
On 2019-08-03, kensi
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And
what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the
working class and
unemployed.
I reject the policy put forth by candidate Yang and/or
raising the
minimum wage to $60 an hour (which is what you'd need to
be on the
border of 'low income' as a single person in Dem city
(San Francisco).
Hyperbole notwithstanding,
Run the numbers.
DYOFHW. Burden of proof is yours, kook.
That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4 person
family. It'd
be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low income
cutoff is
~118k). But the real point is, if you raise wages to the
$20/hr. you
suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
Many small businesses would end up closing their doors, thus
alleviating
competition for corporations (further feeding those
'fatcats'). Gov't
has to be careful where and how they intervene, you guys
don't seem to
understand that. Putting more money into pockets via a fiat
method like
this isn't the way (BTW, the currency itself is already
fiat). You're
also missing a hard and fast truth, no company has any
obligation to pay
anyone 'a living wage', regardless of how that term is
defined. You work
somewhere via a contract that you agree to. Don't like it?
Go somewhere
else. Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another
country. Don't
like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t jobs? Get
an education
and figure out a way to put it to good use (don't do what
Snit does, get
a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and troll usenet for a
'living').
Nice textwall screed-rant, kook. Most of it can be dismissed
on sight,i
Translation: You got nothin'.
Carroll demands people hold his hand when he fails to make any
reasoned
points and just rants and raves. OK. I am doing Carroll a HUGE
favor and
explaining, almost sentence by sentence, why his "textwall" can
mostly
be "dismissed on sight" (and Carroll will snip and run
anyway... he will
---------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4
person family.
      It'd be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low
income cutoff
      is ~118k).
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      But the real point is, if you raise wages to the $20/hr. you
      suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Many small businesses would end up closing their doors, thus
      alleviating competition for corporations (further feeding
those
      'fatcats').
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Gov't has to be careful where and how they intervene, you
guys don't
      seem to understand that.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that he has some special
knowledge
      others do not  (what he says it "seems" to him they do not
      understand and did not even try to meet the burden of proof.
      ------
      Putting more money into pockets via a fiat method like
this isn't
      the way (BTW, the currency itself is already fiat).
      -----
      Carroll went off on completely different topics...
apparently
      forgetting what he was even responding to.
      -----
      You're also missing a hard and fast truth, no company has
any
      obligation to pay anyone 'a living wage', regardless of
how that
      term is defined.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of a lack of such an
obligation to pay
      their full costs and did not even try to meet the burden
of proof.
      -----
      You work somewhere via a contract that you agree to.
Don't like it?
      Go somewhere else.
      -----
      Carroll leaves the topic of MACROECONOMICS behind and
jumps to
      MICROECONOMICS. At this point there is good reason to
think he has
      no idea what he is even responding to and is just in rant
mode.
      -----
      Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another country.
      -----
      Here Carroll shows great irony in telling Americans if
they do not
      like things about their country or government they should
leave,
      even though he has gone on about how asylum seekers who
do not like
      conditions so horrible they walk 1000+ miles to escape
them that
      they should stay and fix them. Not to mention how Trump's
whole
      campaign was about how America was not great.
      The hypocrisy is stunning!
      -----
      Don't like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t
jobs? Get an
      education and figure out a way to put it to good use
(don't do what
      Snit does, get a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and
troll usenet
      for a 'living').
      -----
      And here Carroll again jumps from MACROECONOMICS to
      MICROECONOMICS... and moves to his favorite topic of
putting me down
      based on his jealousy and hatred.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Notice Carroll offers NOTHING that he actually backs... most if
not all
if could just be dismissed... it is utterly devoid of support
and almost
entirely devoid of any reasoned comment.
of
Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
Beggars can't be choosers,
Right... it *so* bad even beggars from other countries are
choosing to
come here illegally... and we let them.
You mean the ones you tell to go back to their own countries to
fix them
even as you tell those trying to fix this country to leave.
See: your hypocrisy is just stunning!
dipshit, and there are too many people desperate
for work and too few jobs.
Can't you guys get your stories straight? One minute it's 'we
need all
these illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do', the next
it's 'too few
jobs'. You're sharing Snit's meds, aren't you? Be careful with
that
sh*t, you saw what it did to him.
Get an education
And end up in hock up to your eyeballs with student debt
you'll never, ever
make enough to pay off?
If your point is that the education system fails too many,
doesn't
prepare them for life and only saddles them with debt, you'll
get no
argument from me.
His point was far more about the insane cost and how we treat
students,
but once again you failed to understand what you read.
Her.
<sigh>
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Really... I am so sorry.
Damn.
hi
HELLO!
are your socks wet
Not wearing any.
that doesn't make them dry
It does mine.
you're not that special
Snit
2019-08-12 14:35:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
On 2019-08-03, kensi
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And
what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the
working class and
unemployed.
I reject the policy put forth by candidate Yang and/or
raising the
minimum wage to $60 an hour (which is what you'd need
to be on the
border of 'low income' as a single person in Dem city
(San Francisco).
Hyperbole notwithstanding,
Run the numbers.
DYOFHW. Burden of proof is yours, kook.
That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4 person
family. It'd
be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low income
cutoff is
~118k). But the real point is, if you raise wages to the
$20/hr. you
suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
Many small businesses would end up closing their doors,
thus alleviating
competition for corporations (further feeding those
'fatcats'). Gov't
has to be careful where and how they intervene, you guys
don't seem to
understand that. Putting more money into pockets via a fiat
method like
this isn't the way (BTW, the currency itself is already
fiat). You're
also missing a hard and fast truth, no company has any
obligation to pay
anyone 'a living wage', regardless of how that term is
defined. You work
somewhere via a contract that you agree to. Don't like it?
Go somewhere
else. Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another
country. Don't
like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t jobs? Get
an education
and figure out a way to put it to good use (don't do what
Snit does, get
a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and troll usenet for a
'living').
Nice textwall screed-rant, kook. Most of it can be dismissed
on sight,i
Translation: You got nothin'.
Carroll demands people hold his hand when he fails to make any
reasoned
points and just rants and raves. OK. I am doing Carroll a HUGE
favor and
explaining, almost sentence by sentence, why his "textwall"
can mostly
be "dismissed on sight" (and Carroll will snip and run
anyway... he will
---------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4
person family.
      It'd be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low
income cutoff
      is ~118k).
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      But the real point is, if you raise wages to the $20/hr. you
      suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Many small businesses would end up closing their doors, thus
      alleviating competition for corporations (further
feeding those
      'fatcats').
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even try
to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Gov't has to be careful where and how they intervene,
you guys don't
      seem to understand that.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that he has some special
knowledge
      others do not  (what he says it "seems" to him they do not
      understand and did not even try to meet the burden of proof.
      ------
      Putting more money into pockets via a fiat method like
this isn't
      the way (BTW, the currency itself is already fiat).
      -----
      Carroll went off on completely different topics...
apparently
      forgetting what he was even responding to.
      -----
      You're also missing a hard and fast truth, no company
has any
      obligation to pay anyone 'a living wage', regardless of
how that
      term is defined.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of a lack of such an
obligation to pay
      their full costs and did not even try to meet the burden
of proof.
      -----
      You work somewhere via a contract that you agree to.
Don't like it?
      Go somewhere else.
      -----
      Carroll leaves the topic of MACROECONOMICS behind and
jumps to
      MICROECONOMICS. At this point there is good reason to
think he has
      no idea what he is even responding to and is just in
rant mode.
      -----
      Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another country.
      -----
      Here Carroll shows great irony in telling Americans if
they do not
      like things about their country or government they
should leave,
      even though he has gone on about how asylum seekers who
do not like
      conditions so horrible they walk 1000+ miles to escape
them that
      they should stay and fix them. Not to mention how
Trump's whole
      campaign was about how America was not great.
      The hypocrisy is stunning!
      -----
      Don't like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t
jobs? Get an
      education and figure out a way to put it to good use
(don't do what
      Snit does, get a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and
troll usenet
      for a 'living').
      -----
      And here Carroll again jumps from MACROECONOMICS to
      MICROECONOMICS... and moves to his favorite topic of
putting me down
      based on his jealousy and hatred.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Notice Carroll offers NOTHING that he actually backs... most
if not all
if could just be dismissed... it is utterly devoid of support
and almost
entirely devoid of any reasoned comment.
of
Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
Beggars can't be choosers,
Right... it *so* bad even beggars from other countries are
choosing to
come here illegally... and we let them.
You mean the ones you tell to go back to their own countries
to fix them
even as you tell those trying to fix this country to leave.
See: your hypocrisy is just stunning!
dipshit, and there are too many people desperate
for work and too few jobs.
Can't you guys get your stories straight? One minute it's 'we
need all
these illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do', the next
it's 'too few
jobs'. You're sharing Snit's meds, aren't you? Be careful
with that
sh*t, you saw what it did to him.
Get an education
And end up in hock up to your eyeballs with student debt
you'll never, ever
make enough to pay off?
If your point is that the education system fails too many,
doesn't
prepare them for life and only saddles them with debt, you'll
get no
argument from me.
His point was far more about the insane cost and how we treat
students,
but once again you failed to understand what you read.
Her.
<sigh>
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Really... I am so sorry.
Damn.
hi
HELLO!
are your socks wet
Not wearing any.
that doesn't make them dry
It does mine.
you're not that special
Or we all are.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 14:47:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by %
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
On 2019-08-03, kensi
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*. And
what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the
working class and
unemployed.
I reject the policy put forth by candidate Yang and/or
raising the
minimum wage to $60 an hour (which is what you'd need
to be on the
border of 'low income' as a single person in Dem city
(San Francisco).
Hyperbole notwithstanding,
Run the numbers.
DYOFHW. Burden of proof is yours, kook.
That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4 person
family. It'd
be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low income
cutoff is
~118k). But the real point is, if you raise wages to the
$20/hr. you
suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
Many small businesses would end up closing their doors,
thus alleviating
competition for corporations (further feeding those
'fatcats'). Gov't
has to be careful where and how they intervene, you guys
don't seem to
understand that. Putting more money into pockets via a
fiat method like
this isn't the way (BTW, the currency itself is already
fiat). You're
also missing a hard and fast truth, no company has any
obligation to pay
anyone 'a living wage', regardless of how that term is
defined. You work
somewhere via a contract that you agree to. Don't like it?
Go somewhere
else. Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another
country. Don't
like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t jobs? Get
an education
and figure out a way to put it to good use (don't do what
Snit does, get
a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and troll usenet for a
'living').
Nice textwall screed-rant, kook. Most of it can be
dismissed on sight,i
Translation: You got nothin'.
Carroll demands people hold his hand when he fails to make
any reasoned
points and just rants and raves. OK. I am doing Carroll a
HUGE favor and
explaining, almost sentence by sentence, why his "textwall"
can mostly
be "dismissed on sight" (and Carroll will snip and run
anyway... he will
---------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4
person family.
      It'd be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low
income cutoff
      is ~118k).
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      But the real point is, if you raise wages to the $20/hr. you
      suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Many small businesses would end up closing their doors, thus
      alleviating competition for corporations (further
feeding those
      'fatcats').
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Gov't has to be careful where and how they intervene,
you guys don't
      seem to understand that.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that he has some special
knowledge
      others do not  (what he says it "seems" to him they do not
      understand and did not even try to meet the burden of proof.
      ------
      Putting more money into pockets via a fiat method like
this isn't
      the way (BTW, the currency itself is already fiat).
      -----
      Carroll went off on completely different topics...
apparently
      forgetting what he was even responding to.
      -----
      You're also missing a hard and fast truth, no company
has any
      obligation to pay anyone 'a living wage', regardless of
how that
      term is defined.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of a lack of such an
obligation to pay
      their full costs and did not even try to meet the
burden of proof.
      -----
      You work somewhere via a contract that you agree to.
Don't like it?
      Go somewhere else.
      -----
      Carroll leaves the topic of MACROECONOMICS behind and
jumps to
      MICROECONOMICS. At this point there is good reason to
think he has
      no idea what he is even responding to and is just in
rant mode.
      -----
      Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another country.
      -----
      Here Carroll shows great irony in telling Americans if
they do not
      like things about their country or government they
should leave,
      even though he has gone on about how asylum seekers who
do not like
      conditions so horrible they walk 1000+ miles to escape
them that
      they should stay and fix them. Not to mention how
Trump's whole
      campaign was about how America was not great.
      The hypocrisy is stunning!
      -----
      Don't like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t
jobs? Get an
      education and figure out a way to put it to good use
(don't do what
      Snit does, get a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and
troll usenet
      for a 'living').
      -----
      And here Carroll again jumps from MACROECONOMICS to
      MICROECONOMICS... and moves to his favorite topic of
putting me down
      based on his jealousy and hatred.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Notice Carroll offers NOTHING that he actually backs... most
if not all
if could just be dismissed... it is utterly devoid of support
and almost
entirely devoid of any reasoned comment.
of
Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
Beggars can't be choosers,
Right... it *so* bad even beggars from other countries are
choosing to
come here illegally... and we let them.
You mean the ones you tell to go back to their own countries
to fix them
even as you tell those trying to fix this country to leave.
See: your hypocrisy is just stunning!
dipshit, and there are too many people desperate
for work and too few jobs.
Can't you guys get your stories straight? One minute it's
'we need all
these illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do', the next
it's 'too few
jobs'. You're sharing Snit's meds, aren't you? Be careful
with that
sh*t, you saw what it did to him.
Get an education
And end up in hock up to your eyeballs with student debt
you'll never, ever
make enough to pay off?
If your point is that the education system fails too many,
doesn't
prepare them for life and only saddles them with debt,
you'll get no
argument from me.
His point was far more about the insane cost and how we treat
students,
but once again you failed to understand what you read.
Her.
<sigh>
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Really... I am so sorry.
Damn.
hi
HELLO!
are your socks wet
Not wearing any.
that doesn't make them dry
It does mine.
you're not that special
Or we all are.
or no we don't ,
or see i told ya ,
or in your ear ,
or up your bum ,
or
Snit
2019-08-12 16:24:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt,
snowflakes, melt!
On 2019-08-03, kensi
You know what *does* create jobs? *Unmet demand*.
And what creates that?
Putting more spending cash in the pockets of the
working class and
unemployed.
I reject the policy put forth by candidate Yang
and/or raising the
minimum wage to $60 an hour (which is what you'd need
to be on the
border of 'low income' as a single person in Dem city
(San Francisco).
Hyperbole notwithstanding,
Run the numbers.
DYOFHW. Burden of proof is yours, kook.
That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4
person family. It'd
be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low income
cutoff is
~118k). But the real point is, if you raise wages to the
$20/hr. you
suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
Many small businesses would end up closing their doors,
thus alleviating
competition for corporations (further feeding those
'fatcats'). Gov't
has to be careful where and how they intervene, you guys
don't seem to
understand that. Putting more money into pockets via a
fiat method like
this isn't the way (BTW, the currency itself is already
fiat). You're
also missing a hard and fast truth, no company has any
obligation to pay
anyone 'a living wage', regardless of how that term is
defined. You work
somewhere via a contract that you agree to. Don't like
it? Go somewhere
else. Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another
country. Don't
like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t jobs?
Get an education
and figure out a way to put it to good use (don't do what
Snit does, get
a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and troll usenet for
a 'living').
Nice textwall screed-rant, kook. Most of it can be
dismissed on sight,i
Translation: You got nothin'.
Carroll demands people hold his hand when he fails to make
any reasoned
points and just rants and raves. OK. I am doing Carroll a
HUGE favor and
explaining, almost sentence by sentence, why his "textwall"
can mostly
be "dismissed on sight" (and Carroll will snip and run
anyway... he will
---------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      That should've read: As the sole wage earner in a 4
person family.
      It'd be ~$30 an hour for two working parents (the low
income cutoff
      is ~118k).
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      But the real point is, if you raise wages to the
$20/hr. you
      suggest, all you'd be doing is killing a ton of small
business jobs.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Many small businesses would end up closing their
doors, thus
      alleviating competition for corporations (further
feeding those
      'fatcats').
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that and did not even
try to meet the
      burden of proof.
      -----
      Gov't has to be careful where and how they intervene,
you guys don't
      seem to understand that.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of that he has some
special knowledge
      others do not  (what he says it "seems" to him they do
not
      understand and did not even try to meet the burden of
proof.
      ------
      Putting more money into pockets via a fiat method like
this isn't
      the way (BTW, the currency itself is already fiat).
      -----
      Carroll went off on completely different topics...
apparently
      forgetting what he was even responding to.
      -----
      You're also missing a hard and fast truth, no company
has any
      obligation to pay anyone 'a living wage', regardless
of how that
      term is defined.
      -----
      Carroll offered no evidence of a lack of such an
obligation to pay
      their full costs and did not even try to meet the
burden of proof.
      -----
      You work somewhere via a contract that you agree to.
Don't like it?
      Go somewhere else.
      -----
      Carroll leaves the topic of MACROECONOMICS behind and
jumps to
      MICROECONOMICS. At this point there is good reason to
think he has
      no idea what he is even responding to and is just in
rant mode.
      -----
      Don't like the idea of this system? Move to another
country.
      -----
      Here Carroll shows great irony in telling Americans if
they do not
      like things about their country or government they
should leave,
      even though he has gone on about how asylum seekers
who do not like
      conditions so horrible they walk 1000+ miles to escape
them that
      they should stay and fix them. Not to mention how
Trump's whole
      campaign was about how America was not great.
      The hypocrisy is stunning!
      -----
      Don't like the prospect that you'll only ever get sh*t
jobs? Get an
      education and figure out a way to put it to good use
(don't do what
      Snit does, get a couple of taxpayer funded degrees and
troll usenet
      for a 'living').
      -----
      And here Carroll again jumps from MACROECONOMICS to
      MICROECONOMICS... and moves to his favorite topic of
putting me down
      based on his jealousy and hatred.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Notice Carroll offers NOTHING that he actually backs... most
if not all
if could just be dismissed... it is utterly devoid of
support and almost
entirely devoid of any reasoned comment.
of
Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
Beggars can't be choosers,
Right... it *so* bad even beggars from other countries are
choosing to
come here illegally... and we let them.
You mean the ones you tell to go back to their own countries
to fix them
even as you tell those trying to fix this country to leave.
See: your hypocrisy is just stunning!
dipshit, and there are too many people desperate
for work and too few jobs.
Can't you guys get your stories straight? One minute it's
'we need all
these illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do', the next
it's 'too few
jobs'. You're sharing Snit's meds, aren't you? Be careful
with that
sh*t, you saw what it did to him.
Get an education
And end up in hock up to your eyeballs with student debt
you'll never, ever
make enough to pay off?
If your point is that the education system fails too many,
doesn't
prepare them for life and only saddles them with debt,
you'll get no
argument from me.
His point was far more about the insane cost and how we
treat students,
but once again you failed to understand what you read.
Her.
<sigh>
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!
Really... I am so sorry.
Damn.
hi
HELLO!
are your socks wet
Not wearing any.
that doesn't make them dry
It does mine.
you're not that special
Or we all are.
or no we don't ,
or see i told ya ,
or in your ear  ,
or up your bum ,
or
Or a boat needs and oar.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 14:25:46 UTC
Permalink
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll
often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there
is not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to
be more knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and
the like.
you should get up in the morning and post , " no "
then at the end of the day you should post and say , " see i was
right "
No.
see how much time that saves
See, I was right.
this is just like talking to myself
Snit
2019-08-12 14:36:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll
often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there
is not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend
to be more knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields
and the like.
you should get up in the morning and post , " no "
then at the end of the day you should post and say , " see i was
right "
No.
see how much time that saves
See, I was right.
this is just like talking to myself
Or your own sock.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 14:48:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by %
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and
you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while
there is not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education
tend to be more knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields
and the like.
you should get up in the morning and post , " no "
then at the end of the day you should post and say , " see i was
right "
No.
see how much time that saves
See, I was right.
this is just like talking to myself
Or your own sock.
no there is no or it's what i said exactly how i said , no or
%
2019-08-12 14:26:38 UTC
Permalink
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
chrisv
2019-08-12 14:35:11 UTC
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Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.

There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
--
"Communist China is currently being cited as an example of paradise by
the left." - "Slimer", aka "Andr-O-Mat", lying shamelessy
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:39:56 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives. I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism, open borders, sanctuary cities, being 'too liberal' on
abortion, free health care for illegals, etc.
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
%
2019-08-12 15:52:37 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives. I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism, open borders, sanctuary cities, being 'too liberal' on
abortion, free health care for illegals, etc.
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
but both kensi and nadegda are dick heads anyway no matter what words
they use
Snit
2019-08-12 15:57:34 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 16:00:04 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Snit
2019-08-12 16:15:56 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 16:46:32 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
Snit
2019-08-12 17:08:38 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 17:12:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his
ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
when have you ever seen a level bubble burst
Snit
2019-08-12 17:28:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to
you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his
ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
when have you ever seen a level bubble burst
1984.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 17:59:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to
you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his
ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
when have you ever seen a level bubble burst
1984.
not counting that that was stupid
Snit
2019-08-12 19:42:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by %
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to
you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his
ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
when have you ever seen a level bubble burst
1984.
not counting that that was stupid
Yeah, boiling levels to clean them was not my best idea.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 20:01:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to
you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his
ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs
any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives.
You are the king of semantic games. You should look at yourself when you
make that accusation.
Post by Steve Carroll
I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism,
Who’s is the back that?
Post by Steve Carroll
open borders,
The right wing bogeyman that essentially nobody backs.
Post by Steve Carroll
sanctuary cities, being ‘too liberal’ on
abortion,
What does that even mean? Giving women too many rights?
Post by Steve Carroll
free health care for illegals, etc.
What about for citizens? What about those in custody?
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be
reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Such as when you demand rights you deny others. Sure. Or when you make up
positions and insist others back them, as you do with open borders.
Post by Steve Carroll
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
Your forte. Heck, you blame me for your insanity. That takes it to a whole
new level.
no it doesn't i set the level well above that a long time ago
Are you on the level?
i must be my bubble's in the middle
It might burst.
when have you ever seen a level bubble burst
1984.
not counting that that was stupid
Yeah, boiling levels to clean them was not my best idea.
they make bubbless ones now
Nadegda
2019-08-13 20:47:23 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
i believe it that's all the proof i need
I'm a liberal myself, but both kensi and Nadegda are often
unreasonable.
Those people (and Snit) have hijacked words for their own narratives. I
hold a number of liberal views but I disagree with things like judicial
activism, open borders, sanctuary cities, being 'too liberal' on
abortion, free health care for illegals, etc.
Post by chrisv
There are so many people who almost *refuse* to be reasonable, and
concede points to their "opponent".
Debatable points are one thing, swimming upstream of reality, well...
And there goes the magic smoke out of my latest irony meter.
--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Skeeter admits he mooches his mother's laptop:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154073947600
%
2019-08-12 14:27:46 UTC
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Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off
every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of me and
says anyone who does that would come to the same unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the reason
for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said his flood bot
requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Snit
2019-08-12 14:36:32 UTC
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Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off
every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of me
and says anyone who does that would come to the same unsupported
conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said his
flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 14:49:50 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that
Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off
every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of me
and says anyone who does that would come to the same unsupported
conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said his
flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Snit
2019-08-12 16:23:51 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of me
and says anyone who does that would come to the same unsupported
conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 16:47:28 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same unsupported
conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Snit
2019-08-12 17:08:27 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 17:12:20 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Snit
2019-08-12 17:28:06 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 18:00:08 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
Snit
2019-08-12 19:41:59 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 20:00:55 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
Snit
2019-08-12 20:03:42 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by %
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs
any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
%
2019-08-12 20:14:03 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without
evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable
to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies
his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years
needs any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
i just mowed for 75 minutes so i'd know
Snit
2019-08-12 20:22:54 UTC
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
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Post by Snit
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Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without
evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable
to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies
his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years
needs any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working
on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
i just mowed for 75 minutes so i'd know
I think you are in some cases. Not sure now.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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2019-08-12 20:31:57 UTC
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Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without
evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable
to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies
his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years
needs any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and
stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him? The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He
killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working
on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a part
of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he
has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
i just mowed for 75 minutes so i'd know
I think you are in some cases. Not sure now.
i went to school i have photos of it

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2019-08-12 20:41:25 UTC
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Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without
evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear
employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and
lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years
needs any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and
stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him?
The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He
killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's
working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a
part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind he
has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his
post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
i just mowed for 75 minutes so i'd know
I think you are in some cases. Not sure now.
i went to school i have photos of it
https://www.scholarshipcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Scholarship-in-University-of-Toronto.jpg
I am allergic to links.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 02:12:24 +0000, Steve Carroll
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without
evidence,
that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear
employable to you?
The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and
lies his ass
off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years
needs any
more
proof.
Wrong: obviously, Nadegda needs proof.
Now supply some or retract your k'lame, k0Ok!
Carroll's "proof" is he brags about his obsession and
stalking of
me and says anyone who does that would come to the same
unsupported conclusions.
Oy. Does he realize how much he shoots himself in the foot?
It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Why are you pretending you know anything about him?
The guy
used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit'
handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He
killed 3
newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's
working on now
with your
help.
Proof, ko0k?
Carroll sees post counts as a competition... hence a
part of the
reason for his flood bot and socks. Just keep in mind
he has said
his flood bot requires manual intervention to actually
post.
if it changes his e-mail address it doesn't add to his
post count
Right... exactly.
so a bot would be pretty stupid,
i get my trolls to use my address
Carroll has talked about Google Groups having a
post-per-day limit or
the like which he runs into.
that does happen but it's an easy fix and ,
it's never as long as they say it is
Yeah, he just uses multiple accounts to get around it.
that's one way
Don’t tell him others.
i don't tell him much at all
YYURYYUBICURYY4Me
no
I think so.
i just mowed for 75 minutes so i'd know
I think you are in some cases. Not sure now.
i went to school i have photos of it
https://www.scholarshipcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Scholarship-in-University-of-Toronto.jpg
I am allergic to links.
another copy of what i do and invented
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 14:36:18 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Your jealousy of me is showing again
'Disgusted by' is not the same as "jealousy". You tagged the taxpayers for 2
degrees that you aren't using...
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Here you are admitting you "watch" me.
Here, I'm admitting many have... and they've done more than just
"watch": <http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Here you are confusing information about me with information about the
voice in your head...
No, you actually did post all throughout the day and night, to the point
where I thought 'Snit' was a group of college kids performing some kind
of social experiment to see reactions.
Keep in mind you are spewing shit to badmouth me and try to fish for
information.
Nah, you gave more info than anyone needed to see what you are. You do
it every single day.
Snit
2019-08-12 16:08:11 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Your jealousy of me is showing again
'Disgusted by' is not the same as "jealousy". You tagged the taxpayers for 2
degrees that you aren't using...
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof.
No one who has watched Snit on usenet for many years needs any more
proof.
Here you are admitting you "watch" me.
At least you do not seek to hide it as much as you used to.
But keep in mind you are merely doing Google searches and showing
what you find AND what you seed. And your goal is to shine the
light away from you and to fish for more information. >
Here, I'm admitting many have... and they've done more than just
"watch": <http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
You admit you watch / stalk me -- and your counter is you have
obsessively scavenged and forged quotes so it means you are not the only
one? You realize you are merely making yourself look worse with your
admission here.
Post by Steve Carroll
The guy used to
regularly posts 3000 posts a month just using his 'Snit' handle, this
doesn't count all his forgeries and puppet crap. He killed 3 newsgroups
before going to the one you're in... which he's working on now with your
help.
Here you are confusing information about me with information about
the voice in your head... and, remember, you post a LOT more than I
do, when you include your bot (which you have said requires manual
action to post) and your socks.
But, really, why make it a competition? Why do you feel the need to
compare yourself with me at all?
Notice you dodge the question and then go back to your insults and
accusations and insanity as you pretend you do not post a LOT more than
I do, when you include ALL of your names and accounts.

But it is still not a competition. To me. To you it clearly is.
Post by Steve Carroll
No, you actually did post all throughout the day and night, to the point
where I thought 'Snit' was a group of college kids performing some kind
of social experiment to see reactions.
Keep in mind you are spewing shit to badmouth me and try to fish for
information.
Nah, you gave more info than anyone needed to see what you are. You do
it every single day.
You can deny it, but you are doing it as you make up claims about my
life -- even contradictory ones. For example, sometimes you insist I am
NOT employable, thus should likely be on public assistance (though when
you are in this mode you do not pretend to know if I am), yet other
times you insist I *am* on public assistance (more so than you,
presumably) but insist I COULD work and am scamming the system.

Of course you never complain about the handouts the wealthy get. Paying
for food subsidies and more for them is just not something you concern
yourself with... but you not only demonize the poor, you use variations
of "you are poor!" as an insult.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 14:37:57 UTC
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On 2019-08-12, Snit <***@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

(snip)
And it is also not something Carroll even knows. It is driving him
absolutely bonkers he does not know even the name of my current
business.
Stop already, no one with a brain buys it.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 14:45:33 UTC
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Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there is
not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to be more
knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and the
like.
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy. Her(?) other beef is 'jobs in their field', a thing
that can fluctuate quite a bit for a number of reasons.
chrisv
2019-08-12 14:52:27 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either. It's not as simple as that.
--
'The same "free market" you're referring to dictates that in the event
of a labour shortage, the producers will be forced to pay more for
labour. In other words, as long as the illegals are kept out, the
workers get a higher wage.' - "Slimer", putting his ignorance on
display
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:45:18 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either. It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now? I lump "Nads", "kensi" and
Snit together because they're often making the same arguments (and
I try to limit it to when that happens). Note I don't lump you in
there. I have a good reason for using the phrase: people who *call*
themselves "liberals" (it delineates).
Snit
2019-08-12 15:57:33 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either. It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
You were an extreme right winger, but even then you’re your own person.
Post by Steve Carroll
I lump “Nads”, “kensi” and
Snit together because they’re often making the same arguments (and
I try to limit it to when that happens). Note I don't lump you in
there. I have a good reason for using the phrase: people who *call*
themselves "liberals" (it delineates).
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
chrisv
2019-08-12 16:26:51 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either. It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".

Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.

I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts. Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.

Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
--
"For those who have posted their public keys the messages they post
can be read by all..." - some thing, putting its ignorance on
display
Snit
2019-08-12 16:29:44 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either. It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts. Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Post by chrisv
Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Just Wondering
2019-08-12 17:48:22 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals.  I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either.  It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts.  Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Perhaps. Nevertheless, someone who obtains a liberal arts degree
may not have useful skills that qualify them for employment in
their field of study. They may in fact be qualified in the job
market for anything more complicated than flipping burgers.
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
%
2019-08-12 18:00:51 UTC
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Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals.  I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either.  It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts.  Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Perhaps.  Nevertheless, someone who obtains a liberal arts degree
may not have useful skills that qualify them for employment in
their field of study.  They may in fact be qualified in the job
market for anything more complicated than flipping burgers.
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
how do they make hookers
Just Wondering
2019-08-12 19:57:00 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals.  I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either.  It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts.  Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Perhaps.  Nevertheless, someone who obtains a liberal arts degree
may not have useful skills that qualify them for employment in
their field of study.  They may in fact be qualified in the job
market for anything more complicated than flipping burgers.
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
how do they make hookers
The same way they make slicers - lousy golf instructors? :)
Snit
2019-08-12 20:02:18 UTC
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Post by %
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals.  I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either.  It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts.  Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Perhaps.  Nevertheless, someone who obtains a liberal arts degree
may not have useful skills that qualify them for employment in
their field of study.  They may in fact be qualified in the job
market for anything more complicated than flipping burgers.
Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Most valuable skills are learned on the job, anyway.
how do they make hookers
The same way they make slicers - lousy golf instructors?    :)
LOL!
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Snit
2019-08-12 19:43:25 UTC
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Post by Snit
Post by chrisv
Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Steve Carroll
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals.  I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy.
You guys aren't reasonable, either.  It's not as simple as that.
What 'guys' am I being lumped with now?
Regarding this specific issue, you were lumped with "Just Wondering".
Even the best efforts are no guarantee of success, even in this
economy.
I might add that there is something to be said for education in the
liberal (nothing to do with politics) arts.  Our world would be rather
bleak, if all educations were about acquiring jobs skills.
Agreed.
Perhaps.  Nevertheless, someone who obtains a liberal arts degree
may not have useful skills that qualify them for employment in
their field of study.  They may in fact be qualified in the job
market for anything more complicated than flipping burgers.
Not anything... but many things.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Snit
2019-08-12 15:25:15 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there is
not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to be more
knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and the
like.
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy. Her(?) other beef is 'jobs in their field', a thing
that can fluctuate quite a bit for a number of reasons.
Did she say otherwise?
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:50:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there is
not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to be more
knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and the
like.
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy. Her(?) other beef is 'jobs in their field', a thing
that can fluctuate quite a bit for a number of reasons.
Did she say otherwise?
So... water is wet... again. Why bring it up?
Snit
2019-08-12 16:15:25 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
Post by Snit
Post by Steve Carroll
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
What makes you think that having a college degree means you
have a useful skill?
That is, in general, the point of the education -- and while there is
not a 1:1 correlation, of course those with an education tend to be more
knowledgeable in most fields.
There are some exceptions, though, in very fast changing fields and the
like.
Nogonads posited that there are people with college degrees who
can't get employment as professionals. I submit that if those
particular people had actually acquired skills useful in their
professions, they would not be flipping burgers for a living.
Not in this economy. Her(?) other beef is 'jobs in their field', a thing
that can fluctuate quite a bit for a number of reasons.
Did she say otherwise?
So... water is wet... again. Why bring it up?
You merely insinuated she said otherwise... but not even you will
directly say it. Fair enough... one of your many silly games.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 14:54:15 UTC
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2019-08-12 14:58:08 UTC
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:20:26 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 01:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Maybe it is tie to allow States to leave the Union have a US version
of Brexit.
A guy named Jefferson Davis once thought as you do. Ask how well that
worked out for him.
Then you believe we will need another civil war?
You assholes seem hell-bent on bringing one about. Which is stupid, since
the same thing will happen as happened last time: you will lose.
As I recall it was the Democrats that last. Seems Abraham Lincoln
was a member of the GOP, a republican. Ulysses S. Grant also a member
of the GOP.
Robert E Lee was a Democrat. Jefferson Davis President of the south
was also a Democrat. You see the liberals have always been losers and
reject freedom. You know users to the max.
Surely you will join modern liberal Democrats in denouncing the honoring of
symbols of slavery and racial oppression. You will surely back the placing
of such horrible reminders of our past — and sadly our present — and have
them put in museums where the history and legacy can be taught.
Right?
So Dems can pretend they didn't do what we all know they did? I prefer
we add plaques to the statues that explain some of the history. Much
cheaper and there's nothing wrong with having reminders of the past. I
can see why you'd like to hide it, though, it keeps the 'plantation'
concept around, a thing you'd like to disappear so as not to have a
single reminder that many are still living on the Dem plantation.
lets let them move in with you
Snit
2019-08-12 15:19:06 UTC
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Post by %
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:20:26 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 01:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Maybe it is tie to allow States to leave the Union have a US version
of Brexit.
A guy named Jefferson Davis once thought as you do. Ask how well that
worked out for him.
Then you believe we will need another civil war?
You assholes seem hell-bent on bringing one about. Which is stupid, since
the same thing will happen as happened last time: you will lose.
As I recall it was the Democrats that last. Seems Abraham Lincoln
was a member of the GOP, a republican. Ulysses S. Grant also a member
of the GOP.
Robert E Lee was a Democrat. Jefferson Davis President of the south
was also a Democrat. You see the liberals have always been losers and
reject freedom. You know users to the max.
Surely you will join modern liberal Democrats in denouncing the honoring of
symbols of slavery and racial oppression. You will surely back the placing
of such horrible reminders of our past — and sadly our present — and have
them put in museums where the history and legacy can be taught.
Right?
So Dems can pretend they didn't do what we all know they did? I prefer
we add plaques to the statues that explain some of the history. Much
cheaper and there's nothing wrong with having reminders of the past. I
can see why you'd like to hide it, though, it keeps the 'plantation'
concept around, a thing you'd like to disappear so as not to have a
single reminder that many are still living on the Dem plantation.
lets let them move in with you
LOL!
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
Snit
2019-08-12 15:19:04 UTC
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:20:26 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 01:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Maybe it is tie to allow States to leave the Union have a US version
of Brexit.
A guy named Jefferson Davis once thought as you do. Ask how well that
worked out for him.
Then you believe we will need another civil war?
You assholes seem hell-bent on bringing one about. Which is stupid, since
the same thing will happen as happened last time: you will lose.
As I recall it was the Democrats that last. Seems Abraham Lincoln
was a member of the GOP, a republican. Ulysses S. Grant also a member
of the GOP.
Robert E Lee was a Democrat. Jefferson Davis President of the south
was also a Democrat. You see the liberals have always been losers and
reject freedom. You know users to the max.
Surely you will join modern liberal Democrats in denouncing the honoring of
symbols of slavery and racial oppression. You will surely back the placing
of such horrible reminders of our past — and sadly our present — and have
them put in museums where the history and legacy can be taught.
Right?
So Dems can pretend they didn't do what we all know they did?
People should be held accountable for their own views. But you want to hold
modern liberal diverse Democrats accountable for the bigotry you and many
modern conservative white Christian right wingers back now, but not hold
you and other right wingers back.

It is weird.

Personal accountability matters. When you back the honoring of symbols of
slavery and racial oppression INSTEAD of taking those symbols and putting
them in museums where the history can be better taught, you should be held
accountable for your backing of bigotry.

When modern liberal Democrats denounce past conservative Democrats they
should not be held accountable for the actions of those they denounce.

But we have covered this and you repeatedly fail to get the concept of
personal responsibility and move to identify politics.
I prefer
we add plaques to the statues that explain some of the history. Much
cheaper and there's nothing wrong with having reminders of the past. I
can see why you'd like to hide it, though, it keeps the 'plantation'
concept around, a thing you'd like to disappear so as not to have a
single reminder that many are still living on the Dem plantation.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
Steve Carroll
2019-08-12 15:55:02 UTC
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Mattb
2019-08-12 20:19:18 UTC
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 01:20:26 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 01:59:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Maybe it is tie to allow States to leave the Union have a US version
of Brexit.
A guy named Jefferson Davis once thought as you do. Ask how well that
worked out for him.
Then you believe we will need another civil war?
You assholes seem hell-bent on bringing one about. Which is stupid, since
the same thing will happen as happened last time: you will lose.
As I recall it was the Democrats that last. Seems Abraham Lincoln
was a member of the GOP, a republican. Ulysses S. Grant also a member
of the GOP.
Robert E Lee was a Democrat. Jefferson Davis President of the south
was also a Democrat. You see the liberals have always been losers and
reject freedom. You know users to the max.
Surely you will join modern liberal Democrats in denouncing the honoring of
symbols of slavery and racial oppression. You will surely back the placing
of such horrible reminders of our past — and sadly our present — and have
them put in museums where the history and legacy can be taught.
Right?
So Dems can pretend they didn't do what we all know they did? I prefer
we add plaques to the statues that explain some of the history. Much
cheaper and there's nothing wrong with having reminders of the past. I
can see why you'd like to hide it, though, it keeps the 'plantation'
concept around, a thing you'd like to disappear so as not to have a
single reminder that many are still living on the Dem plantation.
Democrats still use minorities they do little to nothing for the
long term benefits of minorities especially blacks. Every election
they buy votes.

Here is a example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax-2i71bqGw

Sadly this lady is so stupid she doesn't even know a republican
started that program.

Sadly the liberals are so stupid I bet most don't know Abraham
Lincoln was Republican. That would be a good question to ask for a
youtube video at Berkeley and UCLA even Harvard.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2019-08-12 15:13:45 UTC
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You momma gimme good head.
LOL
%
2019-08-12 15:16:08 UTC
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You momma busted up side my head.
LOL
Snit
2019-08-12 15:29:44 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Your jealousy of me is showing again
'Disgusted by' is not the same as "jealousy". You tagged the taxpayers for 2
degrees that you aren't using...
Proof, kook? I keep seeing people assert, without evidence, that Snit is
unemployed. Why is this?
Is this a serious question? Does he appear employable to you? The guy
can't read, has a serious issue with reality and lies his ass off every
chance he gets... and those are his good points.
That isn't proof. It's just kookscreed from a hater and proves nothing.
Pretty much.
that's waste.
Provisionally granting your questionable premise: No.
A lot of people with degrees are out of work. It is not by choice.
He never put his degrees to use and he never will, that's waste of the
taxpayer money that was used to indoctrin, uh... educate him.
But if it's not by his choice, it's not *him* causing the waste, is it?
And it is also not something Carroll even knows. It is driving him
absolutely bonkers he does not know even the name of my current
business. He is so clearly desperate to know more about it so he can
harass me more.
The
private sector has deemed them "surplus to requirements". They decided
to hire only so many engineers, CS grads, lawyers, or whatever and
never returned the phone calls or resumes of the rest.
[snip jealous foaming by Snit's business rival]
Self-serving babble that proves nothing.
Carroll is competing with me and deeming himself the loser... and I
could not care less who "wins". If he actually made some decent sites I
would be happy for him.
He cannot understand that concept.
Look at the earnings distributions of various degrees and you'll often
now see a bimodal distribution. The higher peak are the ones who get
jobs using those degrees. The lower peak have been stuck with burger
flipping and gig work despite having a useful skill.
Having a degree nowadays often doesn't equate to having a useful skill set.
The degrees I mentioned are all technical degrees widely used in industry,
not Klingon Lit. So your deflection attempt fails.
LOL!
They are lucky if
one of the part-time gigs they get uses their degree, and still need
to ask people if they want fries with that to supplement.
I dunno where you get your data from but even as far back as April of
And what was the unemployment-in-their-own-field rate?
BINGO! This was the key point Carroll missed.
I told him it would be obvious to others.
The plain
unemployment rate counts an engineering graduate as "employed" whether she's
an engineer making $150K a year building bridges or a Wal-Mart greeter getting
$9.75 an hour and only called in for about two hours a week.
Or working two or three low wage jobs to try to make ends meet.
If people with degrees aren't working it has nothing to do with a lack
of jobs, probably more to do with a lack of work ethic. First timers
have issues but it's better than they had a decade ago (some of them are
still recovering). It's not exactly news that companies value actual
experience over a given degree in many jobs grads apply for. With the
current state of education, no one can blame them.
You realize the problem with what you're pushing, right? If you need
experience to get a job in these fields, then nobody new will ever get a
job in these fields will they? And then how in the blue FUCK are you
expecting them to pay off their student loans, or not to have "wasted"
their education, eh, kook? You've painted yourself into a corner again.
Carroll is pretty clearly angry about how his life is turning out. He
whines about it a lot.
The left wing are the ones that sold the bill of goods to kids about
college and did so *as* they didn't prepare them for the real world.
What the hell is that supposed to mean, kook?
It is meant to be a random insult to put you on the defensive and change
the topic from his admission of stalking me.
Carroll ran away denying what he shows, above.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
and ignore the message time and time again.
Praetor Mandrake
2019-08-12 15:48:54 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 06:02:37 +0200, kensi
People like Snit who claims to be an IT tech and Kensi who claims to be
an astrophysicist
Am I *still* living rent free in your tiny li'l noggin, ko0ky? Aww, how
sweet. :)
And you're still 'living' in the devil's anus. How wonderful for you.
Hi, kensi!
%
2019-08-12 15:54:20 UTC
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Post by Praetor Mandrake
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 06:02:37 +0200, kensi
People like Snit who claims to be an IT tech and Kensi who claims to be
an astrophysicist
Am I *still* living rent free in your tiny li'l noggin, ko0ky? Aww, how
sweet. :)
And you're still 'living' in the devil's anus.  How wonderful for you.
Hi, kensi!
it's not anus it's ani
Praetor Mandrake
2019-08-13 18:30:14 UTC
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I am not racist. I am opposed to white people entering the country
illegally also.
"It is equally illegal for the poor and for the rich to sleep on a park bench."
I lay down on a park bench waiting for the 8 o clock today. Used my
backpack folded over as a cushion.
Praetor Mandrake
2019-08-13 18:30:42 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Israel is a ally that you support the terrorist is no surprise.
<facepalm>
Hi Skeeter!
He really isn't very good at the whole socking-up thing, is he? Too
transparent. Too many tells.
No, he really isn't. Though murphy was far worse, *and* had far more socks.
True, that.
<snicker>
*snicker*
<snicker>
And he said Aboriginies.

Din't he!
Praetor Mandrake
2019-08-13 18:31:23 UTC
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
I am not racist. I am opposed to white people entering the country
illegally also.
"It is equally illegal for the poor and for the rich to sleep on a
park bench."
But let us see what happens... the POOR non-whites were taken from the
chicken processing plants, their families torn apart... and the RICH
folks who hired them -- some as young as 14 -- were not charged with
anything.
Some chicken farms use sawdust as filler for their *breasts*. Better
than nightcrawlers.
Nadegda
2019-08-13 21:25:14 UTC
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Post by Steve Carroll
(snip)
and now your reply ,
you said nothing about my question ,
i asked where you find the time and you gave me ,
the history of the world of snit
You're puzzled that I questioned your blatant hypocrisy? Guess you'll
have to deal with that <shrug>. As to how much of my time I spend
correcting Snit's lies (many with my name in them), being that I'm not
beholden to you in any way, including financially, it wasn't relevant
to me... and it shouldn't be to you... unless you're one of those people
calling themself a "liberal" where you believe you can do such a thing
(which isn't what being a "liberal" is about).
i asked where you find the time and you gave me ,
the history of the world of snit
What I gave you doesn't scratch the surface of his world, even this
1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member
area and a login. If you forget your password, you can ask it
to e-mail it to you, and a bot will send an e-mail. *That*
is the e-mail Snit got from Sandman's website, and yes he's
that fucked in the head and starved for attention that he'd
claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So, don't get
sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this particular
instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed*
by behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic
posts, I wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the
amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same
wish of him." 27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
3- amicus_curious (COLA): "Where on earth do you get the
idea that I am arguing with you, little man? Is your name
"Hadron"? Shoo! Go back to your mail order business!"
29 May 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/00ee203fe6183b1b
4- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the
truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep
disrupting the newsgroup." 27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/52eab53a559e00ce
5- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers
to weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole."
25 Jun 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da
6- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member
of CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being
better than them, rise above the low level you so obviously
dislike. Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
7- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If
yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on
you set to expire, but it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578
8- BaJoRi: "You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who
has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed
it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and
REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
9- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this
group can be if you kill file Snit. I have never understood
why more people don't do the same.." 5 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903
10- Bob B.: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all
group, but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible
to have a decent discussion about anything. The solution is
to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just
can't stop feeding him." 27 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190
11- bunny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually
=3D:-( 9 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432
12- Brian: "LOL, Has anyone ever been more universally hated on
the USENET than Snit? Too bad he craves the hatred and negative
attention. We will read about him in the news some day soon
going on a shooting rampage. Somebody should get the pychopath
some help before he VT's a bunch of people. 29 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/66a89e4f5c89f489
13- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill, but you and
Steve don't help. You encourage him to post, which he doesn't
need to do. We would all be better off if you just ignore him.
17 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2ed879f256677548
14- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls'
... in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the
idiotrollers like snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I
didn't see his posts, only your reply". 07 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5ea48f7a84115fd1
15- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time
for you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of
course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9
16- cc (COLA): "You are incapable of letting anything go. In
fact, I guarantee you will respond to this post in under 3
hours. Hell, I'd be surprised if it takes longer than 30
minutes. If I really wanted to, I could make this little
side topic go on forever, because you are a complete moron
who just has to respond to anything written about or to you,
even if it just means repeating yourself." 1 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3712090033411605
17- Chance Furlong: "HPT, Wally, Sandman, C Lund, Steve
Carroll and Tim Adams are not trolls and do not troll. You,
on the other hand, are a troll." 27 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/28c267f26965b43f
18- Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "I try to go more by the contents
of the posts. Although some clowns (e.g. Snit) spew out so
much chaff it is not worth the effort." 14 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8b6a982957c7c9d5
Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "Actually, many of the advocates are
sick to death of Snit's never-ending puerile blather about
trivialities. The occasional reasonable conversations are
too few and far between." 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/811326833ba71864
19- Chris Clement: "ugh....geez man.....let it go" 5 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ed093996df6547b2
20- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so,
for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at
the bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated
flushes. It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can
still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5
21- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for
you to "win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't
like them. Why must you keep this up? What results are you
expecting?"
22- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process
them. Keep posting your list and proving that you are an idiot
troll. I will not address it any further- you being too stupid
to realize and accept that is not my problem". 22 Nov 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8
23- cshenk: "I happen to believe him over you... and I doubt
I'd be the only person in this ng to do so. You have given
people a lot of 'evidence' that you are dishonest... as
'evidenced' by the quotes list." .... "Why stop with
Jonas? Why not call the entire list of people on your quotes
list 'liars'? After all, they have all labeled you a liar,
troll or worse." 27 Nov 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/909a59de04850ef5
24- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care
to read] Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290
25- Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux
advocates. Almost all of them are making similar claims about
Snit. When you have so many diverse people who share a common
perception where do you think the problem lies? With Snit? Or
almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced
degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b
26- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought
you knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it
was presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you."
30 Nov 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f
27- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar
and loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me
where i stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal person. i
suppose it's tough for the magnitude of your 'loserdom'
to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop
responding to you. you almost always start responding back
in a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once
again that time. i can only ask that you pass my condolences
to your wife and unborn child for having to put up with such
a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser
as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be;
if not, double condolences to her)." 30 Apr 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77
28- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to
honest and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd.
He is the biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the
email to prove Snit was using sock puppets and he still is.
Snit can not give up his socks puppets and shills. They are
the only ones who ever support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
29- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're
the worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar
and a forger, and you've almost destroyed this group
single-handedly. For you to post a list of out of context
arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies labled
as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need
to be center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd
if you thought it would make people look at you." 18 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
30- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric
help. Go see a doctor." 24 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15
31- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to
the points in my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. How childishly typical of you, Snit."
16 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5
32- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled
since the first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do
like Snit'. As far as I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist."
15 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0
33- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among
people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I
feel that it is like being in a room of really young children
trying there best to best the other person. The one common
thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like
this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a
great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs
and more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no
end then all this picking at each other on such a personal
level. CSMA has always been al little adversarial but you
have personally crank it up to the point that this place is
no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6
34- Geezer: Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those
who uncover his lies and deceit;)" Snit: "and no clue about
the law." Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported
opinions are "proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported
lies)' 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d
35- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd
37- gimme_this_gimme_that: "Hitting the vodka tonight Snit?"
4 Mar 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794
38- Glenn Hall (COLA): "That person is like a constantly running
toilet that won't stop. Does he ever stop talking about UI
consistency? No matter what anyone replies, he adds a few more
branches to the spider web as it grows and grows. It's a waste
of time." 31 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c8dd8a244fe1eb2c
39- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone
else notices that you are not honest and you have no honor."
21 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91
40- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I
dont ever censor people cause that's just retarded but if you
dont fix it I'm gonna have to cause I dont wanna see your name
40 times in a row. So uh, change your client or something".
12 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499
41- Hadron (COLA): "Would you please stop the whining. FFS he
has you jumping to his every post. How many more fucking times
are you going to post the same repetitive garbage? Please ..at
least change the record sometimes!!!!!!!" 13 Aug 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1e0ecbb776623473
41- Hadron (COLA): "I'm not coming to the rescue of anyone. I
have Snit killfiled for his repeated reposts of the same text
time and time again." 24 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e99833d90612ee35
41- Hadron (COLA): Snit: "Anyone who denies this is a part of
the herd. Period. This is a simple black and white issue where
there is no middle ground - anyone who lies to defend Stallman's
repulsive support of child abuse *is* a part of the herd."
Hadron: "Constantly posting this dirge about Stallman and his
views is about to get you back in the killfile. Stop it. Its
repulsive and vindictive on your part." 25 Sep 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6be2e85c701763a7
42- Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must be a deeply
troubled individual who has a fragile ego. I needn't agree
nor disagree with the points above. I don't care about
them. Your constant complaints, whines, rages, etc., wars
with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as trolls,
arise from your sense that any conversation or thread must
orbit around you. People have pointed that out to you but you
don't accept that. Snit I feel sorry for you. Please go and
see a doctor about your solipsism. There must be a cure for
you deep psychological travail." 18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8
43- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*" Aug 19 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d8afd909a308b97f
44- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear
example of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone
who disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a
purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only
warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder
that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the
word "responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
45- High Plains Thumper: "Agreed except for Snit and socks (Joe
Crump and ad nauseum). I've got Snit kill binned, because he
is the classic ad hominem troll. At first he seems reasonable,
but then it always degrades into name calling bullying, the
responder is a liar, etc. AKA the Snit Circus of Pathological
Lies. Perhaps the times he seems reasonable are when he is
properly controlled by medication." 21 Sep 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/249a598ec5aafe85
46- Homer (COLA): "I don't mean this as a personal insult,
but I'm perfectly serious when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser)
is obviously mentally ill, and needs help. I was going to
suggest that someone alerts his wife to the problem, but I
have to assume she's already aware of his condition, if she
is in fact still living with him. It's possible, I suppose,
that he's already undergoing counselling and/or on medication,
but if he is then it doesn't seem to be helping much. Maybe he
just missed his 'meds' today (again, I mean that sincerely)."
26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
Homer: "Word of advice for anyone concerned: don't be tempted
to get drawn into a Snit circus, it's literally a waste of
time. He's just an attention seeker who'll keep stringing you
along, in a never-ending circle of obtuse questions, for which
he has no genuine interest in the answers." 14 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0d06eb2e900e3058
47- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting
to CSMA for a long time now, since 1995 at least. There have
always been trolls and morons, but I've never seen anything
quite so disruptive as the Snit circus. Snit will *never*
back down or stop, and neither will most of his opponents.
A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb
48- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable
to offer support for your statements, you're reduced to
personal attacks on me. Incidentally, anyone reading this
post can see that I have offered no straw men, and have only
asked you to explain how the things you state as facts can
be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this attitude,
the topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have
some insights. I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long
posts and avoid answering any of the questions I asked by
saying everything was just repeated." 6 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6
49- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid
people on usenet that should be confined most likely. You
sit there and refresh your screen endlessly. You post the
same nonsense over and over. Either you're a super troll,
or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0
50- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit." 27 Feb 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cdddf5fd04d9afcb
51- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."
23 Dec 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d
52- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not
a 12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions
won't help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In
fact, it detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have
no place in a newsgroup such as this." 18 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862
53- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you
accomplishing besides being annoying? Is that your goal?"
25 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243
54- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush
mentioned in it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on
topic and not hijack threads."
55- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're
involved in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens
of responses to OT things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone
has to take the lead and stop this crap. Try. How about it?"
25 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b
56- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away,
rather than actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for
the course I suppose."
"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce
evidence for his claims. At least come up with some
original insults Snit! I mean, you *are* capable of original
thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44
57- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
58- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What
are you bitching about?" 1 Dec 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12ba528be5ad2665
59- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice-
more like a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never
again even entertain an unkind thought re Apple, will you take
it back and lock it up? Please??" 11 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121
60- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's
postings since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to
filter his posts, I just consider the source and skip to the
next one when I see his name." 7 Jan 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2
61- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be
shocked that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff
about being a computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain
loony and best ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by
medication. He's here to do one thing, get attention from
people. He says the crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what
he's counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes
to get a rise out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't
regret it." 3 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314
John Slade: "Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without
adding drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage
to get out of my killfile? Oh well back into the cage you
go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8
62- Josh McKee: "I have no strawman so therefore it has to be in
your mind. .... What is obnoxious are your posts." 26 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3665b9e002d27c44
63- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that
even though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll
of the lot is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If
the few stragglers that keep replying to him would just stop
responding to Snit at all this place could be worth coming back
to. There's a good chance he'll pack up and take his trolling
to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4
64- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your
sentence with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.'
29 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8
65- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding
gobbets of putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how
to support your position, instead of sticking your fingers in
your ears and humming, hoping it'll all go away." 7 Mar 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a
66- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for
ad hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own
ad hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the
subject of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and
you always have been." 14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
67- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f
68- Lawrence D'Oliveiro (COLA): "You seem to be full of
complaints about your inability to hold up your end of the
argument, aren't you?" 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8ca5f48099696228
69- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long
time, but the few times you post something worth reading just
aren't worth it anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83
70- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact
you've been an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out
with the pretense of trying to be fair, but lately all there
is from you in COLA is trashtalk about Linux and you acting
every bit the troll." 16 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f
71-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors
CBS News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time
Snit is cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit
he's wrong." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf
72- libsnightmare: "You're a sore loser who has resorted to
fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left
is to edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so
you lie. Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about
you. Sad..." 4 May 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e
73- Linonut (cola): "Snit may be the first retraction of my
general killfile amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining,
foot-stomping, back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance
generated by that effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574
74- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"
18 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6
75- Lewis: "hasn't this fight been going on for like 8 years
now? I don't think anything is ever going to fix snit."
02 Mar 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/98ef8bca6b3a9b34
76- Lusotec (COLA): "You can't resist being a liar, it is
pathological, just like you can't resist trolling these forums
day after day, week after week, month after month, year after
year, decade after decade. A pathetic waste of life."
Jun 20 2012
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b3d29c146414f077
77- Marious Barrier (COLA): "I must recognize that it is the
first time I see that kind of troll, once that start asking
moderately serious questions and since the first answer,
gradually starts to degenerate it by, in many failed attempts of
being sarcastic, inserting various indirect insults and calling
all people ignorant and unable to answer what he asks for."
14 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c6607ea64f436821
78- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser
is the same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest
now, it would be impossible to determine where the honesty
starts and the usual dishonesty ends. In my primary school,
one of the teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I recall her
going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser could "cry wolf"
over and over now, and I would not come to help him with his
sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if he's
ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3
79- Marti Van Lin (COLA): "I paid enough attention to Snit
IMHO. I killfiled him the very first month I started lurking
COLA. I find his nitpicking and immature behavior extremely
annoying. I am not going to torture myself reading his
bullshit. Snit is also a proven liar. Remember his retarded
exif debacle." 08 Jul 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d12622df3671359b
80- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life."
30 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b
81- McGarnagle: "And you know when Snit is endorsed by two of
the biggest nutjobs in AGA - RichL and El Kabong - you know
he's not very bright and a loon." 31 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/e60a33341bff1309
82- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone
refutes your 'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting
your 'facts' is easily done in this case. I did it, and you
ignored it." 9 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32
83- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All
I see you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with
everyone. You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not*
a compliment!" 8 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd
84- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying
here. Instead I can only say that you are a complete and
delusional kook that happens to inhabit CSMA for the time
being. That you are unaware of how deranged you actually behave
further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional help."
"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot
made no threat to you before you went to the police. She
made a promise. Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out
paranoiac view point, Elizabot was suddenly "threatening"
to you. In so much as you had to take your kooky self down to
your local police shop and blub on their shoulders about how
much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they had to waste
valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity. I
bet they have Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of
your profile, Snit." 2 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40
85- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are
all rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely
curious. Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on."
18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07
86- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because
they are off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely
boring and clearly show that you are crying out for attention."
20 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80
87- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact
that your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since
you claimed to KF him. Killfilling someone generally implies
you're ignoring that person, yet you piggyback onto virtually
every reply to him here and and check his website's validation
status more often than most people check their e-mail. These are
not the actions of a mentally balanced individual." 19 Jan 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b
88- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any
pre-school or kindergarten and see if the kids there can't
teach you a thing or two about social behavior." 16 May 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4
89- Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit
retard circus!!! I actually dread seeing Snit reply to a
thread because that automatically means it's in the toilet."
8 Jul 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701
90- Mutley (AUK): "For the record ... I'll be done when I
decide that there's more shit on your face than there is on
the sole of my shoe." 01 Nov 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b
91- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't
convinced that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call
people losers, I certainly am now. Why bother responding to
his stupidities anyway?" 29 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508
92- nessuno (COLA): Chris Ahlstrom: "Have you ever noticed that
threads involving Snit, [...] are a basically a waste of time?
nessuno: "Yep. I don't read them." 29 May 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2f997598f0e25f9d
93- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got
a wry sense of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way
you're just a waste of time, and you've done more than anybody
to make this group a cesspool. Then you revel in wallowing
in your own filth." 14 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274
94- none of your buisiness (COLA): "I am sorry, but I am going
to have to send you to the bin. You're perpetrating the Snit
circus by responding to all of his assinine posts. He is only
here for one reason, to disrupt this group, & you are helping
him, as well as flatfish." 04 Jan 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a9b40ce46612fdc4
95- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling
as children in the back seat of the family car saying: Mom,
'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do now
... I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is
that by now you should've grown out of that type of poke and
complain interaction with others. But, of course, you've haven't
learned how to interact with others in a more 'constructive'
and mutually beneficial manner even now." 03 Jul 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4
96- notlisted (COLA): "I actually like Apple. But I see you as
an asshole who spends an embarassing percentage of your life
posting derogatory comments about a computer operating system
you obviously detest, and insulting those who defend it in a
newsgroup dedicated its advocacy. That's almost the definition
of being an asshole, and you have half a dozen buddies who
do the same thing. You excuse what you do by pretending that
you're merely pointing out problems in the hope that the system
will be improved, but that's an obvious lie whether it's you
saying it or one of your buds. You do it because you enjoy
the feeling it gives you, whatever that is." 07 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/90b57eaa796e8b14
97- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry
I killfiled him?" 27 Nov 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257
98- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability
and desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial
of things." 2 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e
99- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending
Author, example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill
this Author' Click 'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author
of your choice. Then to see your work... Choose the Filter
Menu again, Then 'Refilter Articles'... Bam! No more boring,
pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!" 14 Aug 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec
100- Owl (COLA): "You have interacted with me often enough
to know that I never initiate personal attacks. I generally
respond in kind. It is you who usually fall off the civility
wagon first, with your ironically condescending canned
responses that do nothing for your argument and generally
shine a spotlight on the desperation that you are so fearful
of projecting." 5 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8debf93e05da4d26
Owl (COLA): "You are a complete idiot and extremely dishonest.
Consider yourself permanently plonked." 29 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ba7797c5108b3c10
101- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather
discuss something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or,
for that matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems so
painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769
102- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... " 27 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/93afdfea4d4f491a
103- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For
someone who talks about everyone else not being "honest and
honorable" you appear to be the least honest and honorable of
anyone here." 22 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4
104- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option
with Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c
105- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take
your argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77
106- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely,
and someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a
blue moon he has something useful to say." 20 Mar 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a31a47e26c5f5b7
107- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that
they were not different windowing environments? Message-ID,
please. Experience has told me not to trust you on anything
without backing evidence." 30 Jun 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cfd5de2006d42fdc
108- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot Glasser is invading this
group with his inane drivel, so he has to bear what people
You *are* a Glasser sock" 30 Jan 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f3166f6fda92641b
109- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu". 30 Mar 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3e88e9a86cb5483e
110- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."
1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277
111- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference
a long standing war you have going with some person from
csma. It's like you single out persons to target your attentions
upon and then continuously berate them with constant barbs
and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in
turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things,
your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature
aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose
for frequenting this and other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
112- RichardK: "Just killfile him already." 20 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c9e7ded2e95a582
113- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant
one. You trash people that are trying their level best to
cope with a horrendous situation. And you do it without the
slightest idea of what is going on." 06 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b
114- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is
a troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However,
as a troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92
115- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care
if you quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate
perched on the shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out
that you run the risk of looking ridiculous when you quote
something patently stupid. If that's your goal, you're on the
right track, and more power to you." 11 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d
116- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue,
who's thing is twisting your words so he can win an argument
against a straw man. That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42
RonB: (COLA): "Why do you bother responding to Snit? He makes
no point, he simply gainsays whatever you say. Just another
version of Hadron's 'you're a liar' mantra, which is about
all he can muster nowadays." 27 May 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/279210dd877d7aa0
RonB (COLA): "Original subject line now killfiled. You can
only talk about the freaking clipboard for so many million
freaking messages. As I said, Snit has no common-sense, STOP
mechanism. He's a mechanically obsessive super crank and will
go on forever. I'm not kidding about this, he will *NEVER*
*ever* stop." 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0df1e0164a8b586e
117- Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir
boys." 14 Sep 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb
118- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter
category. Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose
of hoping to generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn
more about Linux and how it can help you and your supposed
users why aren't you requesting help from a more technical
Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old saying goes,
those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts seem to
confirm that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08
119- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and
worthless. You must be related to our resident racist troll,
he lies as much as you." 29 Dec 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d
120- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost
hated, in a news group before. He has the ability to turn just
about any person against him in just a few posts. On usenet,
trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is that
I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll -
damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they
are wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour."
18 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2
121- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere
nice. Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton
seafront made more sense than this. You been doing drugs
or something?" 25 May 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370
122- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit,
you're probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that
promises to remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1
123- Sermo Malifer (COLA): Snit: "Why do so many people in
COLA argue *against* me..." Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a
narcissistic troll who posts trash just to get people talking
about you." 21 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1
124- spike1: "As for the original post, there's plenty of reason
thought and criteria. The reason is snit's here. The thought is
probably to show everyone here just how bad a troll snit is."
03 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c797d640e3b9fc12
125- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem
expressing anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in
other ways. and he thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is
there and he figures he's pretty smart. indeed, he tells us,
he's done the personality tests and the iq tests and he's
okay! aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."
3 Mar 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7f9fa1cf90490298
126- Steel (COLA): "You may not like the game, but nevertheless,
it's just a game. You play a game yourself don't kid yourself."
14 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/be1f49165984c350
127- Steve Carroll: "Snit isn't much more than a one trick
pony and not telling the whole story is one of his two main
tricks. His other main trick is to outright lie. Sprinkle in
a bit of denial and you've gone a long way towards defining
his MO. The idea that Snit admits to his errors is one of
the biggest jokes on usenet." 28 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0cc84ece10726aac
128- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece
of elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up
in the "Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour,
and CSMA begun to smell like elephant dung." 18 Aug 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9fc11094133dfcdf
129- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility
with me for your rediculous argument regarding this."
26 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c8777d39c34e293
130- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit
has lost all self respect and has sunk to the point of using
words like 'asses' when referring to others. Oh, how could
the morally superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a
moment out of your busy schedule to feel embarassed for him.
Or perhaps we should set up a fund to get him more happy glue
(and the appropriate plastic bags)." 27 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3edd9ab69425a6c5
131- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk
him then. A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be."
15 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b382420a696f140
132- Tattoo Vampire (COLA): "In other words, in another
attempt to troll, you made yourself look like a fool. Again".
28 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b2676d3540e09f38
133- thanatoid: "Is business/personal life/etc. SO bad that you
had to create Snit? I really thought higher of you until Snit
came in here, in fact I find your site very nice and wish there
was a shop like yours where I live (well, I /think/...) Or is
Snit really just someone whose HD you accidentally wiped? Either
way, it seems to have created a lot of, for lack of a better
word, unpleasantness - just from looking at today's headers."
02 Jul 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/1c43a7415c97bfa1
134- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my
killbin, I can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322
135- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're
the one lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically
amount to "I'm right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples
someone points at to demonstrate their claim, you blindly
continue to insist that they provide no evidence, or that
the evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still, you fall back
on straw men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the
argument in your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that
inhabit CSMA, Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason
than you are." 23 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d488596b57132124
136- Thufir: "You can "prove" that no one has disproved your
"proof"? Again, your assertion that no one has done so is
even *less* convincing than your claim that some PDF "proves"
whatever point you're trying to make precisely because I'm
familiar with your MO. That is, you're a dumb-ass who would
claim that that something is proved when it's not, and who
would ignore counter-examples disproving your contention. I
don't know what this *ages old* thread is about, but I know
that you're full of shit." 21 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5114623055c01092
137-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else
a liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a
138- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way
the poor sick fool can get attention. My fucking God, he's
taken to hanging out with and supporting racist pig fuckers
like MuahMuah. It is true that no-one likes him and those that
pretend they do are just using him or don't know him - but
come on- it's not his fault. He's sick. Have some compassion,
eh? All these idiot trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah,
and Snit - they are all so alike. I pity each and every one
of them" 19 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/67f0f174110bfa0a
139- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way
you could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to
troll here." 14 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6e3cfd9240ac4871
140- Timberwoof: "Plonk, Snit." 23 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c8df070c3e776c
141- tom_elam: "Killfile Steve C. and Snit" 07 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b50d0c973d21d995
142- TomB (COLA): "No Snit, you were flat out lying in an
attempt to make me look bad. Do you really have to sink to
that level in order to 'be right'? If so, you're pathetic. And
I don't say this because I like to say it." 07 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43263f575ac40353
143- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in
into one of your Circus acts?" 20 Feb 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/25f0e481b605e71f
Stop polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive
"writings". You give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your
goal you have succeeded! That also goes for all that bullshit
on your website" 11 Jun 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/03610d2080321d33
145- Tony(UK) (COLA): "Your email address in your headers just
about sums the Linux world up. Nothing to do with the OS, it
is the *uckwits involved in the whole arena and have posted
before on this. If in doubt, deride, insult and attack. Look
inwardly carefully before judging me." 10 Dec 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/533042ed18cefba3
146- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with
Snit. Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't
mostly restrict their responses to 'why don't you go away,
no one wants you here'. Just what would keep someone in this
group with all of that animosity? Must be some kind of severe
mental illness." 17 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/45197fbb46d491df
147- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty"
are nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you
wish to define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt
to alter or bend the rules when inevitably things do not go to
your liking, for this reason I doubt anyone would be foolish
enough to play your game." 16 May 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9b3ed1ee20e5220
148- White Spirit (COLA): "Snit deserves a good beat-down,
Rodney King style. I have had to plonk the worthless piece of
Snit to prevent my monitor being defiled with the presence of
his idiotic, narcissistic tripe." 24 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2e3adbaae4bfb91d
149- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home
more than he's anywhere near a classroom".
150- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a
mental breakdown it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit
Glasser. What a f#cked up mess he is." 29 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/914d1e74855fb461
151- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're
the first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-)
10 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/313c7368f6369c49
152- Woofbert: "*Plonk*" 14 Jun 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/436e6b5333d747e0
153- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of
posts, to prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like
that to people without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly,
in the record. Ping Snit to do a search - you will flatter him,
and give meaning to his tawdry little life." 25 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538
154- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile. No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye".
11 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12f7c34f24d43624
155- Znu: "The Snit Circus has gotten particularly bad as of
late. When I set up my filters to kill all of Snit's posts,
plus direct replies to them (which is how I'm keeping things
from now on), nearly 40% of the most recent 1000 articles in
CSMA go out the window. .... In all, something like 50% of the
traffic in this group is now related to Snit insanity. .... I
killfile Edwin because I don't have a patience to have
discussions with someone who deliberately tries to waste
my time. But watching *other people* tie him knots can be
entertaining. The Snit-related posts are not like this. They
are endless repetitions of the exact same material and/or
arguments dating back *years* about who said what." 20 Apr 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9244dd79c682b2d6
156- Kari Lane (COLA): "You are pitiful. And a big pain in
the ass. Without you there might be change to get some real
discussion going on about Linux." 27 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5889b9cdf65c0b44
157- Roy Schestowitz (COLA): "Your neighbour troll has gotten
no attention, so he decided to start spamming our site, having
trolled the IRC channel. He has just posted 7 non-content
self-promotion links in a matter of 5 minute (as comments),
The trolling and stalking elsewhere have verged the pathological
too. S*it Glasser -- see help. You're clearly insane." [...]
"The Prescott Lunattic has just pasted his ENTIRE BLOG into my
blog (as comments). If this is not an UBERTROLL, I don't know
what is. 31 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b66f067167d0d36b
157- Roy Schestowitz (COLA): "He is piggy-backing other people's
sites for attention. Frankly, he's the most disgusting form
of troll and no wonder even the Mac forums disowned him. He's
a real-life troll." 31 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/543bc1b219961b16
158 - 7 (COLA): "You went off topic, run, back down, accepted
you are a HYPOCRITE, trolled, posted net abuse and underlined
your illiterate character, ignored the answer, made false
accusation and trolled again." 23 Nov 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/7a9240935bfd3ffc
159 - DFS (COLA): "About Snit? If so, I was fooled by him for
a long time, too, mostly because I didn't closely read his
threads. I knew he liked to split hairs and argue endlessly,
so I usually glossed over his threads. I didn't realize he
would keep babbling "Support your accusation" even in the face
of direct evidence of his lies. Oh well. I finally decided
to killfile him again (my only entry)." 27 Mar 2012
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d5fff469502bc7ba
"Yep. I admit I was sucked in. In the dumper....." 27 Mar 2012
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/81eabc1a75ff01d2
161 - clogwog (COLA): "This discussion, a very boring one,
is leading nowhere, please try to accept that cc has his
arguments to disagree with you." 31 May 2012
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8bc89787876f55a0
162 - Don Zeigler (COLA)
"Hopefully none of Snot's family, friends or business associates
will ever run across this thread archived on Google. It's the
most shining example yet of his obviously unbalanced mental
state. He's told so many whoppers he can't even keep his story
straight." Jan 16 2009
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab7014a465685945
163 - Gregory Shearman (COLA)
"Just killfile the troll, don't engage it." - Oct 13 2010
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0b08a16aeed057f
He's living rent free right between yer ears, isn't he?

<snicker>

That textwall you just regurgitated must have taken quite a lot of effort to
compile. Mayhap I ought to nominate you for AUK's Emmett Gulley "Obsesso"
Award.
--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Skeeter admits he mooches his mother's laptop:
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154073947600
Snit
2019-08-13 21:57:39 UTC
Permalink
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
Post by Steve Carroll
(snip)
and now your reply ,
you said nothing about my question ,
i asked where you find the time and you gave me ,
the history of the world of snit
You're puzzled that I questioned your blatant hypocrisy? Guess you'll
have to deal with that <shrug>. As to how much of my time I spend
correcting Snit's lies (many with my name in them), being that I'm not
beholden to you in any way, including financially, it wasn't relevant
to me... and it shouldn't be to you... unless you're one of those people
calling themself a "liberal" where you believe you can do such a thing
(which isn't what being a "liberal" is about).
i asked where you find the time and you gave me ,
the history of the world of snit
What I gave you doesn't scratch the surface of his world, even this
1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member
area and a login. If you forget your password, you can ask it
to e-mail it to you, and a bot will send an e-mail. *That*
is the e-mail Snit got from Sandman's website, and yes he's
that fucked in the head and starved for attention that he'd
claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So, don't get
sucked into his little circus. The e-mail, in this particular
instance, did probably originate from Sandman.net." 27 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dac74355552b4cc7
2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed*
by behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic
posts, I wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the
amazing silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same
wish of him." 27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221
3- amicus_curious (COLA): "Where on earth do you get the
idea that I am arguing with you, little man? Is your name
"Hadron"? Shoo! Go back to your mail order business!"
29 May 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/00ee203fe6183b1b
4- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the
truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep
disrupting the newsgroup." 27 Feb 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/52eab53a559e00ce
5- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers
to weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole."
25 Jun 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51b43d6c9613c9da
6- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member
of CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being
better than them, rise above the low level you so obviously
dislike. Anything, just stop...." 26 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d6ffb6b06aa237e5
7- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If
yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on
you set to expire, but it's fixed now." 13 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a98d179b2ff9578
8- BaJoRi: "You know it, and I know it, and everyone else who
has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement, showed
it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick and
REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f
9- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this
group can be if you kill file Snit. I have never understood
why more people don't do the same.." 5 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0706dbef8ce1f903
10- Bob B.: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all
group, but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible
to have a decent discussion about anything. The solution is
to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some people just
can't stop feeding him." 27 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d2f1dff196ca190
11- bunny: Subject "snit makes me sad", Text "really actually
=3D:-( 9 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4e31cb49c1e2d432
12- Brian: "LOL, Has anyone ever been more universally hated on
the USENET than Snit? Too bad he craves the hatred and negative
attention. We will read about him in the news some day soon
going on a shooting rampage. Somebody should get the pychopath
some help before he VT's a bunch of people. 29 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/66a89e4f5c89f489
13- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill, but you and
Steve don't help. You encourage him to post, which he doesn't
need to do. We would all be better off if you just ignore him.
17 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2ed879f256677548
14- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls'
... in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the
idiotrollers like snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I
didn't see his posts, only your reply". 07 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5ea48f7a84115fd1
15- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time
for you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of
course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter." 5 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2c390a34b05b24a9
16- cc (COLA): "You are incapable of letting anything go. In
fact, I guarantee you will respond to this post in under 3
hours. Hell, I'd be surprised if it takes longer than 30
minutes. If I really wanted to, I could make this little
side topic go on forever, because you are a complete moron
who just has to respond to anything written about or to you,
even if it just means repeating yourself." 1 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3712090033411605
17- Chance Furlong: "HPT, Wally, Sandman, C Lund, Steve
Carroll and Tim Adams are not trolls and do not troll. You,
on the other hand, are a troll." 27 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/28c267f26965b43f
18- Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "I try to go more by the contents
of the posts. Although some clowns (e.g. Snit) spew out so
much chaff it is not worth the effort." 14 Feb 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8b6a982957c7c9d5
Chris Ahlstrom (COLA): "Actually, many of the advocates are
sick to death of Snit's never-ending puerile blather about
trivialities. The occasional reasonable conversations are
too few and far between." 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/811326833ba71864
19- Chris Clement: "ugh....geez man.....let it go" 5 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ed093996df6547b2
20- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him 'shit', and rightly so,
for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at
the bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated
flushes. It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can
still *plonk* him..." 12 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/18099f8aa067f4a5
21- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for
you to "win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't
like them. Why must you keep this up? What results are you
expecting?"
22- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process
them. Keep posting your list and proving that you are an idiot
troll. I will not address it any further- you being too stupid
to realize and accept that is not my problem". 22 Nov 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cellular.attws/msg/0aa65b7a132dbfe8
23- cshenk: "I happen to believe him over you... and I doubt
I'd be the only person in this ng to do so. You have given
people a lot of 'evidence' that you are dishonest... as
'evidenced' by the quotes list." .... "Why stop with
Jonas? Why not call the entire list of people on your quotes
list 'liars'? After all, they have all labeled you a liar,
troll or worse." 27 Nov 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/909a59de04850ef5
24- Dave Fritzinger: "[snip of stuff I really don't care
to read] Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!" 2 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/57bb2fc42ec0f290
25- Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux
advocates. Almost all of them are making similar claims about
Snit. When you have so many diverse people who share a common
perception where do you think the problem lies? With Snit? Or
almost everyone else? The answer doesn't require an advanced
degree to figure out." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/73edac32c3ad530b
26- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought
you knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it
was presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you."
30 Nov 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3254ec7af27bfb0f
27- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar
and loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me
where i stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal person. i
suppose it's tough for the magnitude of your 'loserdom'
to stick, so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop
responding to you. you almost always start responding back
in a semi normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's once
again that time. i can only ask that you pass my condolences
to your wife and unborn child for having to put up with such
a dishonest fool as yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser
as well, just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be;
if not, double condolences to her)." 30 Apr 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/71f74dd6d806ce77
28- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to
honest and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd.
He is the biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the
email to prove Snit was using sock puppets and he still is.
Snit can not give up his socks puppets and shills. They are
the only ones who ever support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
29- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're
the worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar
and a forger, and you've almost destroyed this group
single-handedly. For you to post a list of out of context
arguments, and lies, and forgeries about your enemies labled
as a "peace effort" has to be one of the craziest stunts you've
pulled. It's all about your sick need for attention, your need
to be center stage at all times. You'd publicly eat dog turd
if you thought it would make people look at you." 18 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0
30- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric
help. Go see a doctor." 24 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/6f6c88356b54fc15
31- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to
the points in my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. How childishly typical of you, Snit."
16 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55214ccfb7414fe5
32- Fa-groon: "I don't read Snit period. He's been killfiled
since the first day I posted here. [....] I don't want to 'do
like Snit'. As far as I'm concerned, Snit doesn't even exist."
15 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/dcfbff305ba8b7f0
33- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among
people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I
feel that it is like being in a room of really young children
trying there best to best the other person. The one common
thing among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like
this, but facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a
great percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs
and more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no
end then all this picking at each other on such a personal
level. CSMA has always been al little adversarial but you
have personally crank it up to the point that this place is
no longer fun. Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus." 12 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bbe695bbc3424ab6
34- Geezer: Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those
who uncover his lies and deceit;)" Snit: "and no clue about
the law." Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported
opinions are "proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported
lies)' 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d
35- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865
36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
the Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3d3af33ce25a11fd
37- gimme_this_gimme_that: "Hitting the vodka tonight Snit?"
4 Mar 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b457a7b378264794
38- Glenn Hall (COLA): "That person is like a constantly running
toilet that won't stop. Does he ever stop talking about UI
consistency? No matter what anyone replies, he adds a few more
branches to the spider web as it grows and grows. It's a waste
of time." 31 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c8dd8a244fe1eb2c
39- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone
else notices that you are not honest and you have no honor."
21 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3b92f11a1ab00f91
40- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I
dont ever censor people cause that's just retarded but if you
dont fix it I'm gonna have to cause I dont wanna see your name
40 times in a row. So uh, change your client or something".
12 Sep 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f36ee6b458c86499
41- Hadron (COLA): "Would you please stop the whining. FFS he
has you jumping to his every post. How many more fucking times
are you going to post the same repetitive garbage? Please ..at
least change the record sometimes!!!!!!!" 13 Aug 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1e0ecbb776623473
41- Hadron (COLA): "I'm not coming to the rescue of anyone. I
have Snit killfiled for his repeated reposts of the same text
time and time again." 24 Aug 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e99833d90612ee35
41- Hadron (COLA): Snit: "Anyone who denies this is a part of
the herd. Period. This is a simple black and white issue where
there is no middle ground - anyone who lies to defend Stallman's
repulsive support of child abuse *is* a part of the herd."
Hadron: "Constantly posting this dirge about Stallman and his
views is about to get you back in the killfile. Stop it. Its
repulsive and vindictive on your part." 25 Sep 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6be2e85c701763a7
42- Henry Flam: "You on the other hand must be a deeply
troubled individual who has a fragile ego. I needn't agree
nor disagree with the points above. I don't care about
them. Your constant complaints, whines, rages, etc., wars
with the regular Mac advocates, whom you mislabel as trolls,
arise from your sense that any conversation or thread must
orbit around you. People have pointed that out to you but you
don't accept that. Snit I feel sorry for you. Please go and
see a doctor about your solipsism. There must be a cure for
you deep psychological travail." 18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b9bb48e6e6da75c8
43- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*" Aug 19 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d8afd909a308b97f
44- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear
example of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone
who disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a
purposeful attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only
warning to consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder
that you, and you alone are responsible for that accusation,
both in the ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the
word "responsible".' 25 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a
45- High Plains Thumper: "Agreed except for Snit and socks (Joe
Crump and ad nauseum). I've got Snit kill binned, because he
is the classic ad hominem troll. At first he seems reasonable,
but then it always degrades into name calling bullying, the
responder is a liar, etc. AKA the Snit Circus of Pathological
Lies. Perhaps the times he seems reasonable are when he is
properly controlled by medication." 21 Sep 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/249a598ec5aafe85
46- Homer (COLA): "I don't mean this as a personal insult,
but I'm perfectly serious when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser)
is obviously mentally ill, and needs help. I was going to
suggest that someone alerts his wife to the problem, but I
have to assume she's already aware of his condition, if she
is in fact still living with him. It's possible, I suppose,
that he's already undergoing counselling and/or on medication,
but if he is then it doesn't seem to be helping much. Maybe he
just missed his 'meds' today (again, I mean that sincerely)."
26 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8
Homer: "Word of advice for anyone concerned: don't be tempted
to get drawn into a Snit circus, it's literally a waste of
time. He's just an attention seeker who'll keep stringing you
along, in a never-ending circle of obtuse questions, for which
he has no genuine interest in the answers." 14 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0d06eb2e900e3058
47- hophead: "I have been reading and occasionally posting
to CSMA for a long time now, since 1995 at least. There have
always been trolls and morons, but I've never seen anything
quite so disruptive as the Snit circus. Snit will *never*
back down or stop, and neither will most of his opponents.
A good kill file is your only hope." 20 Aug 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3161a78667e299eb
48- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable
to offer support for your statements, you're reduced to
personal attacks on me. Incidentally, anyone reading this
post can see that I have offered no straw men, and have only
asked you to explain how the things you state as facts can
be true. I'm really sorry that you're taking this attitude,
the topic is an interesting one and I thought you might have
some insights. I've snipped the rest, since you dislike long
posts and avoid answering any of the questions I asked by
saying everything was just repeated." 6 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8e07cde31f4eecf6
49- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid
people on usenet that should be confined most likely. You
sit there and refresh your screen endlessly. You post the
same nonsense over and over. Either you're a super troll,
or you're a super mess." 1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a8e091c0b248eb0
50- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit." 27 Feb 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cdddf5fd04d9afcb
51- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."
23 Dec 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0ec649345d433a2d
52- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not
a 12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions
won't help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In
fact, it detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have
no place in a newsgroup such as this." 18 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/947a2cc0301a2862
53- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you
accomplishing besides being annoying? Is that your goal?"
25 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e3d5029d34cde243
54- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush
mentioned in it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on
topic and not hijack threads."
55- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're
involved in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens
of responses to OT things and garbage? Cmon there Snit. Someone
has to take the lead and stop this crap. Try. How about it?"
25 Apr 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5b5c22490ab9649b
56- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away,
rather than actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for
the course I suppose."
"Evasion noted. Snit runs away again rather than produce
evidence for his claims. At least come up with some
original insults Snit! I mean, you *are* capable of original
thoughts! Right? Snit?" 8 Feb 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e33321cc3343fc44
57- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7
58- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What
are you bitching about?" 1 Dec 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/12ba528be5ad2665
59- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice-
more like a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never
again even entertain an unkind thought re Apple, will you take
it back and lock it up? Please??" 11 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e2891b1f3984e121
60- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's
postings since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to
filter his posts, I just consider the source and skip to the
next one when I see his name." 7 Jan 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7d34c1bd05c877d2
61- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be
shocked that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff
about being a computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain
loony and best ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by
medication. He's here to do one thing, get attention from
people. He says the crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what
he's counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes
to get a rise out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't
regret it." 3 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/394a53a65c28d314
John Slade: "Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without
adding drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage
to get out of my killfile? Oh well back into the cage you
go, PLONK." 13 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/msg/992a796786a541d8
62- Josh McKee: "I have no strawman so therefore it has to be in
your mind. .... What is obnoxious are your posts." 26 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3665b9e002d27c44
63- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that
even though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll
of the lot is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If
the few stragglers that keep replying to him would just stop
responding to Snit at all this place could be worth coming back
to. There's a good chance he'll pack up and take his trolling
to more fertile ground." 22 Oct 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/0b9dca7df1f677f4
64- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your
sentence with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.'
29 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8
65- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding
gobbets of putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how
to support your position, instead of sticking your fingers in
your ears and humming, hoping it'll all go away." 7 Mar 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/96d064a7a5c6074a
66- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for
ad hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own
ad hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the
subject of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and
you always have been." 14 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee
67- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid." 7 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a9bedf6689f9a54f
68- Lawrence D'Oliveiro (COLA): "You seem to be full of
complaints about your inability to hold up your end of the
argument, aren't you?" 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8ca5f48099696228
69- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long
time, but the few times you post something worth reading just
aren't worth it anymore. *plonk*" 16 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5520adae01120e83
70- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact
you've been an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out
with the pretense of trying to be fair, but lately all there
is from you in COLA is trashtalk about Linux and you acting
every bit the troll." 16 Jul 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad7d6c42c5e4cf2f
71-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors
CBS News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time
Snit is cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit
he's wrong." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf
72- libsnightmare: "You're a sore loser who has resorted to
fifth grade tactics. How fucking sad - all this clown has left
is to edit posts and post fake bullshit. You can't debate... so
you lie. Once again, you have proved Steve Carroll right about
you. Sad..." 4 May 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a80c93f80bd6bc3e
73- Linonut (cola): "Snit may be the first retraction of my
general killfile amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining,
foot-stomping, back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance
generated by that effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574
74- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"
18 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b6cd3ac4bf1e08d6
75- Lewis: "hasn't this fight been going on for like 8 years
now? I don't think anything is ever going to fix snit."
02 Mar 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/98ef8bca6b3a9b34
76- Lusotec (COLA): "You can't resist being a liar, it is
pathological, just like you can't resist trolling these forums
day after day, week after week, month after month, year after
year, decade after decade. A pathetic waste of life."
Jun 20 2012
https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/b3d29c146414f077
77- Marious Barrier (COLA): "I must recognize that it is the
first time I see that kind of troll, once that start asking
moderately serious questions and since the first answer,
gradually starts to degenerate it by, in many failed attempts of
being sarcastic, inserting various indirect insults and calling
all people ignorant and unable to answer what he asks for."
14 Oct 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/c6607ea64f436821
78- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser
is the same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest
now, it would be impossible to determine where the honesty
starts and the usual dishonesty ends. In my primary school,
one of the teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I recall her
going over the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser could "cry wolf"
over and over now, and I would not come to help him with his
sheep, because I do not know any way of determining if he's
ever telling the truth, or indeed, if he ever has." 2 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3f30aa1b65a972b3
79- Marti Van Lin (COLA): "I paid enough attention to Snit
IMHO. I killfiled him the very first month I started lurking
COLA. I find his nitpicking and immature behavior extremely
annoying. I am not going to torture myself reading his
bullshit. Snit is also a proven liar. Remember his retarded
exif debacle." 08 Jul 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d12622df3671359b
80- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life."
30 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9935f4154d5a290b
81- McGarnagle: "And you know when Snit is endorsed by two of
the biggest nutjobs in AGA - RichL and El Kabong - you know
he's not very bright and a loon." 31 Oct 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/e60a33341bff1309
82- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone
refutes your 'facts', you run away and ignore them. Refuting
your 'facts' is easily done in this case. I did it, and you
ignored it." 9 Feb 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/c050c82720737b32
83- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All
I see you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with
everyone. You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not*
a compliment!" 8 Jul 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7c5b72d70b87ffbd
84- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying
here. Instead I can only say that you are a complete and
delusional kook that happens to inhabit CSMA for the time
being. That you are unaware of how deranged you actually behave
further reinforces this notion. Please seek professional help."
"The point that keeps whooshing over your head Snit, is Elizabot
made no threat to you before you went to the police. She
made a promise. Admittedly, to your delusional spaced out
paranoiac view point, Elizabot was suddenly "threatening"
to you. In so much as you had to take your kooky self down to
your local police shop and blub on their shoulders about how
much in danger you were in [sob, whine], and they had to waste
valuable policing time consoling you over your stupidity. I
bet they have Kook with a capital "K" written at the top of
your profile, Snit." 2 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/9cf45bc88a324f40
85- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are
all rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely
curious. Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on."
18 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f1c3041d89504c07
86- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because
they are off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely
boring and clearly show that you are crying out for attention."
20 Sep 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a38f07b9a4811a80
87- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact
that your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since
you claimed to KF him. Killfilling someone generally implies
you're ignoring that person, yet you piggyback onto virtually
every reply to him here and and check his website's validation
status more often than most people check their e-mail. These are
not the actions of a mentally balanced individual." 19 Jan 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b005666ab303e2b
88- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any
pre-school or kindergarten and see if the kids there can't
teach you a thing or two about social behavior." 16 May 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/55c03a6a0b7813a4
89- Muahman: "Ahhhh shit, another thread lost to the Snit
retard circus!!! I actually dread seeing Snit reply to a
thread because that automatically means it's in the toilet."
8 Jul 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/92e776d521dfa701
90- Mutley (AUK): "For the record ... I'll be done when I
decide that there's more shit on your face than there is on
the sole of my shoe." 01 Nov 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/1802ad3aa000098b
91- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't
convinced that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call
people losers, I certainly am now. Why bother responding to
his stupidities anyway?" 29 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/be1a326a81441508
92- nessuno (COLA): Chris Ahlstrom: "Have you ever noticed that
threads involving Snit, [...] are a basically a waste of time?
nessuno: "Yep. I don't read them." 29 May 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2f997598f0e25f9d
93- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got
a wry sense of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way
you're just a waste of time, and you've done more than anybody
to make this group a cesspool. Then you revel in wallowing
in your own filth." 14 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2856277b085d0274
94- none of your buisiness (COLA): "I am sorry, but I am going
to have to send you to the bin. You're perpetrating the Snit
circus by responding to all of his assinine posts. He is only
here for one reason, to disrupt this group, & you are helping
him, as well as flatfish." 04 Jan 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a9b40ce46612fdc4
95- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling
as children in the back seat of the family car saying: Mom,
'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do now
... I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is
that by now you should've grown out of that type of poke and
complain interaction with others. But, of course, you've haven't
learned how to interact with others in a more 'constructive'
and mutually beneficial manner even now." 03 Jul 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d16279e9003ca8f4
96- notlisted (COLA): "I actually like Apple. But I see you as
an asshole who spends an embarassing percentage of your life
posting derogatory comments about a computer operating system
you obviously detest, and insulting those who defend it in a
newsgroup dedicated its advocacy. That's almost the definition
of being an asshole, and you have half a dozen buddies who
do the same thing. You excuse what you do by pretending that
you're merely pointing out problems in the hope that the system
will be improved, but that's an obvious lie whether it's you
saying it or one of your buds. You do it because you enjoy
the feeling it gives you, whatever that is." 07 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/90b57eaa796e8b14
97- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry
I killfiled him?" 27 Nov 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/23b808d9646cd257
98- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability
and desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial
of things." 2 Oct 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/88457f8e7c25273e
99- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher: Select offending
Author, example Snit... Go to the Filters Menu, Choose 'Kill
this Author' Click 'OK' Then Repeat with each annoying Author
of your choice. Then to see your work... Choose the Filter
Menu again, Then 'Refilter Articles'... Bam! No more boring,
pointless bickering about nothing. Enjoy!!!!!" 14 Aug 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1d7f9181e95ed9ec
100- Owl (COLA): "You have interacted with me often enough
to know that I never initiate personal attacks. I generally
respond in kind. It is you who usually fall off the civility
wagon first, with your ironically condescending canned
responses that do nothing for your argument and generally
shine a spotlight on the desperation that you are so fearful
of projecting." 5 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8debf93e05da4d26
Owl (COLA): "You are a complete idiot and extremely dishonest.
Consider yourself permanently plonked." 29 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ba7797c5108b3c10
101- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather
discuss something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or,
for that matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems so
painfully inadequate?" 13 Aug 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f93db68e683ad769
102- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... " 27 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/93afdfea4d4f491a
103- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For
someone who talks about everyone else not being "honest and
honorable" you appear to be the least honest and honorable of
anyone here." 22 Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/36bf51df2a2662a4
104- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option
with Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing." 30 Dec 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/011eef01d7bcd56c
105- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take
your argument with sandman into the private room." 13 Dec 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ae4651ec99be3c77
106- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely,
and someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a
blue moon he has something useful to say." 20 Mar 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/8a31a47e26c5f5b7
107- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that
they were not different windowing environments? Message-ID,
please. Experience has told me not to trust you on anything
without backing evidence." 30 Jun 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cfd5de2006d42fdc
108- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot Glasser is invading this
group with his inane drivel, so he has to bear what people
You *are* a Glasser sock" 30 Jan 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f3166f6fda92641b
109- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu". 30 Mar 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3e88e9a86cb5483e
110- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."
1 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/ad24a97d5dc86277
111- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference
a long standing war you have going with some person from
csma. It's like you single out persons to target your attentions
upon and then continuously berate them with constant barbs
and goads to perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in
turn you respond in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things,
your affinity for Macs and your overbearing pompous nature
aside, this is what convinces me that your primary purpose
for frequenting this and other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d
112- RichardK: "Just killfile him already." 20 Jun 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1c9e7ded2e95a582
113- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant
one. You trash people that are trying their level best to
cope with a horrendous situation. And you do it without the
slightest idea of what is going on." 06 Sep 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b
114- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is
a troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However,
as a troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy." 22 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/198b88e3d0064a92
115- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care
if you quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate
perched on the shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out
that you run the risk of looking ridiculous when you quote
something patently stupid. If that's your goal, you're on the
right track, and more power to you." 11 Jan 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4dc22433eae8803d
116- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue,
who's thing is twisting your words so he can win an argument
against a straw man. That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42
RonB: (COLA): "Why do you bother responding to Snit? He makes
no point, he simply gainsays whatever you say. Just another
version of Hadron's 'you're a liar' mantra, which is about
all he can muster nowadays." 27 May 2010
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/279210dd877d7aa0
RonB (COLA): "Original subject line now killfiled. You can
only talk about the freaking clipboard for so many million
freaking messages. As I said, Snit has no common-sense, STOP
mechanism. He's a mechanically obsessive super crank and will
go on forever. I'm not kidding about this, he will *NEVER*
*ever* stop." 6 Mar 2011
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/0df1e0164a8b586e
117- Rotten Apple: "You make trolls like me look like choir
boys." 14 Sep 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/7a92988bcbce8fdb
118- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter
category. Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose
of hoping to generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn
more about Linux and how it can help you and your supposed
users why aren't you requesting help from a more technical
Linux newsgroup than an advocacy group? As the old saying goes,
those who can do, those who can't teach. Your posts seem to
confirm that saying IMHO." 12 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08
119- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and
worthless. You must be related to our resident racist troll,
he lies as much as you." 29 Dec 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d
120- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost
hated, in a news group before. He has the ability to turn just
about any person against him in just a few posts. On usenet,
trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is that
I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll -
damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they
are wrong. Only Tholen himself can match this behaviour."
18 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/51c0735c774215c2
121- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere
nice. Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton
seafront made more sense than this. You been doing drugs
or something?" 25 May 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370
122- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit,
you're probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that
promises to remove smut from your harddrive." 21 Jan 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e166032d8959c0e1
123- Sermo Malifer (COLA): Snit: "Why do so many people in
COLA argue *against* me..." Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a
narcissistic troll w