I think we agree that those who generally speak of identifying with the
term are dangerous and violent and no matter their stated purpose or goal
are dangers to society. I do not think either of us back that in this area.
Do you extend this to other dangerous and violent groups? I do. Left or
right. Legal or illegal. I do not back the use of needless violence.
It is "interesting", however, that the only groups you ever bitch about
You mean the groups and the individuals running around killing people in
mass shootings and who have proved themselves to be the largest
terrorist threat to the US.
You mean I focus on that over a non-group that has engaged in, as far as
I have seen, ZERO murders (which does not suggest zero violence, and of
course I do not back the violence).
Yes, Carroll, I focus on murder and terrorism and the destruction of
rights and people demanding special entitlements over people who act
poorly in response to that. ABSOLUTELY!
But you do not. In fact you think it is somehow unfair to treat the two
"sides" here the same -- you want a special focus on those who are not
with you, on the extreme far right. You want special entitlements and
you play victim.
And you are damned right I am against that!
Recently, you even repeated your erroneous statement
that right wing terrorists are the biggest terrorist threat we face.
January 24, 2019
The fact is right-wing extremists collectively have been responsible for
more than 70 percent of the 427 extremist-related killings over the past
10 years, far outnumbering those committed by left-wing extremists or
domestic Islamist extremists — even with the sharp rise of
Islamist-extremist killings in the past five years.
Notice where right wing terrorism and other such killings have gotten so
bad the stats for them have been split (Islamist extremists are a subset
of extreme right wingers such as yourself).
The number of fatalities is 35 percent higher than the previous year,
and it marks the fourth-deadliest year for such attacks since 1970. In
fact, according to the ADL, white supremacists are responsible for the
majority of such attacks “almost every year.” The 2018 attacks include
the one at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue by a man who blamed Jews
for the migrant caravan, the mass shooting at a yoga studio by an
“incel” obsessed with interracial dating, and the school massacre in
Parkland, Florida, carried out by a student who wished that “all the
Jews were dead.”
From 2009 through 2018, right-wing extremists accounted for 73 percent
of such killings, according to the ADL, compared with 23 percent for
Islamists and 3 percent for left-wing extremists. In other words, most
terrorist attacks in the United States, and most deaths from terrorist
attacks, are caused by white extremists. But they do not cause the sort
of nationwide panic that helped Trump win the 2016 election and helped
the GOP expand its Senate majority in the midterms.
When white extremists kill, politicians do not demand that they be
racially profiled. They do not call for bans on white people coming to
the United States. They do not insist that white people’s freedom of
movement be restricted, their houses of worship be surveilled, their
leaders be banned from holding public office, or their neighborhoods be
“secured” and occupied by armed agents of the state. And they do not
demand that taxpayers foot the bill for a massive, symbolic monument
that will register America’s official disdain for white people in
Wow... it is as if their description of such bigotry was written for you!
The threat from right-wing terrorism in the United States—and
Europe—appears to be rising. Of particular concern are white
supremacists and anti-government extremists, such as militia groups and
so-called sovereign citizens interested in plotting attacks against
government, racial, religious, and political targets in the United
States. The October 27, 2018, Pittsburgh synagogue shooting by Robert
Bowers, and the arrest a day earlier of Cesar Sayoc who sent pipe bombs
to prominent Democrats, appear to be the most recent manifestations of
this trend. Both perpetrators were far-right extremists. Although
violent left-wing groups and individuals also present a threat,
far-right-networks appear to be better armed and larger. There also is a
continuing threat from extremists inspired by the Islamic State and
al-Qaeda. But the number of attacks from right-wing extremists since
2014 has been greater than attacks from Islamic extremists.
I know... this is evidence and you hate that.
realize you like to parrot articles you've read but that idea is silly by
most any sensible metric (loss of life, loss of $$, etc.). Just because
Islamic extremists are much more patient and plan far more effectively
doesn't mean our homegrown ntiwits are even close to the damage they've
done. The homies are years, if not decades, behind.
Ah, you and your fellow non-Islamic right wing extremists are being
over-represented because you think other right wing extremists are more
patient and capable than you are.
You are ALWAYS the victim of your lack of abilities. Oy.
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.